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Old 03-10-2011, 12:24 AM   Thread Starter #1
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Hey everyone, long time no post. Last July I moved from Houston to South Bend, IN for a new job and of course took my '07 Maxima SE with me (I towed it on a 4-wheel trailer, didn't drive it up). A couple months ago the engine started feeling rough and I saw some white smoke (no blue tint) coming out the back. It got a little louder and I noticed a clicking sound that synched with the rev counter around 1500-2000 RPM -- basically city driving. If I revved it would go away, and wouldn't click on idle. I took it to Nissan and the first thing they saw was the oil -- sludged up and consistency of peanut butter. I have been very negligent in changing, and the oil was probably 20k miles old. Until the smoke/noise, it ran like a champ and never gave me any grief. No indicators, nominal temperature (right below middle like always), etc.

They drained what they could, took the oil pan off and cleaned that out, and gave me fresh oil. He said the fluids were old but everything looked OK; coolant level was fine too. Head gasket was (externally) dry and tight. We agreed I would come back in 500 miles again to flush out whatever crap the new oil loosened up; we did NOT do an oil flush.

Fast forward to today. We're about 250 miles later and the smoke is even worse; it's a big cloud for 20-30 seconds then a tiny bit during driving and right after you shut it off. The clicking has stopped; the engine temp is still normal, and still no indicators/warning lights. I called the tech again and they said at this point it's either re-ringing the engine or replacing the entire engine, but they won't know until they tear it apart. He quoted me $5500 for a new short block and $9500 for a new engine. At this point I don't know what to believe but want to get second opinions. I'm still under powertrain warranty but he said they don't warrant against sludge and I'm on the hook for it.

I don't know if I should shop around for help some more, try and sell the car without mentioning the smoke, or are they just taking me to the bank?

Thanks in advance everyone!
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Old 03-10-2011, 12:27 AM   #2
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Default Re: A Good Reason To Change Your Oil On Time

Something else wrong with that car. My car get full synthetic oil every 7000 miles and new oil filter every other oil change, no issues. I cold go to 10K if I wanted to, oil still looks good.
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i change my oil every 10k and it still looks good when i dump it out.
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I saw that on the big org, just crazy
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This -> sludged up and consistency of peanut butter
made me cringe.

No way to treat any car
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Seen this on the big org too. Yall gotta understand that this man didn't change his oil or anything for 20,000 miles!

Honestly, he should've seen this coming. Maintenance > mods

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20K miles and no oil change? That's flat out stupid.
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yeah, 20k is asking for trouble.
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Yep he had it coming, but if I f'ed up like that I know I would def not post about it....
Maybe its made up?
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They deserved no sympathy. They deserved it. Idiot............
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Even running Amsoil to 20K is pushing it. I ran mine to just under 17.5K last year and it was fairly dark when I drained it. The fluid, other than the color, seemed OK and I've had no issues with the Max. I'm going to swap out oil this time in the 12K range.
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Damn, if you even been in Houston in the summer it's down right hot. Had to be real tough on the motor. ..
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Even running Amsoil to 20K is pushing it. I ran mine to just under 17.5K last year and it was fairly dark when I drained it. The fluid, other than the color, seemed OK and I've had no issues with the Max. I'm going to swap out oil this time in the 12K range.
Why even wait 12K miles to do an oil change? The Recommended (myth) is 3000K, but you can stretch it to 5-7K... I can't find a reason of why on earth would anyone wait longer than that to get a simple oil change.

The way your engine runs relates to how you take care of it. There's a reason why you get "maintenance" intervals provided by Nissan. Engines for our cars aren't cheap, so why put yourself in a position to be forking out $3000+ when a $20-30 oil change could save your ass?

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30 bucks could have saved him 8gs. lol
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The max I'll go is 5500k
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Why even wait 12K miles to do an oil change? The Recommended (myth) is 3000K, but you can stretch it to 5-7K... I can't find a reason of why on earth would anyone wait longer than that to get a simple oil change.

The way your engine runs relates to how you take care of it. There's a reason why you get "maintenance" intervals provided by Nissan. Engines for our cars aren't cheap, so why put yourself in a position to be forking out $3000+ when a $20-30 oil change could save your ass?

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Wasn't posting to gain your understanding. I have 150,000 miles on the motor and have had no issues. You're right $20 - $30 will be about what you'll spend for a conventional oil change and filter every 3K-5K miles. Point is if you upgrade to a synthetic (be it M1, Amsoil, RP etc) you can drive 10K miles with minimal worries. But, it's going to cost you a little more.
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My advice to "Houston Maxima". If you are going to treat your car like that then you shouldn't own a Maxima. You need to buy something disposable vehicle like a Kia or a Daewoo.
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how long synth oil can go? I use vavoline full synth
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20K miles and no oil change? That's flat out stupid.
Exactly!

I don't give a damn what others say.......7k is the max in between oil changes. Do what ya'll wanna do but your ride is the one that's gonna suffer the most.

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Why even ask? Who cares how long somebody says "should" be ok? Change your oil every 5k miles or so, and call it a day. It really isn't that big of an expense, even for synthetic oil.
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I would not trust any oil to run 20K or even 15K, sorry. $70 bucks is cheaper then a new engine.
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My advice to "Houston Maxima". If you are going to treat your car like that then you shouldn't own a Maxima. You need to buy something disposable vehicle like a Kia or a Daewoo.
i didnt know they still make Daewoo
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