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Old 06-27-2012, 03:25 PM   Thread Starter #1
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Whats up all,

Anyone here had a leak. What are some warning signs that may occur? 2006 Maxima SE 3.5


I have noticed my acceleration from the start being a bit of a drag, Really reacts different going up and down hills.. Runs rough in park for a a few seconds, once I shift into R or D its good.. I had a SES a few months back that turned out to be CAT converter or o2, turned off and never came back on. Just had new sparks,chain,tensioners and guides put in not sure if this has anything to do with

Any info you can give would be awesome. Thanks in advance!!!

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First off,Welcome.

Secondly,leak what??
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Welcome

was the code P0420
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First off,Welcome.

Secondly,leak what??

Thanks for the welcome, and yeah missed the key leak part. Vacuum leak.
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was the code P0420

Yep. Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold . Never cleared the code just turned off about a month ago and never saw it since.


Hers the nightmare before all of this. I am not very mechanically inclined just a heads up.

Kind of a dilemma and sorry for the novel. I have been through hell this past month. This car has ran great till now. The dreaded timing chain tensioners and guides were just done. Had the Chain work and the spark plugs done at the same time 1965 out the door from reliable auto in Illinois. Picked the car up on Tuesday last week. When I hopped in it for the 1st time I came to notice that the car wouldn't accelarate correctly it almost felt as I was dragging a boat behind me. Mechanic drove it around and it died on him was able to get it restarted cleaned the throttle body then found out his machine couldn't relearn the idle. Was able to make it to nissan the shop payed for it good to go! Well thats what I thought driving that night did the same a real loud bang when I shifted into reverse and the car would barely move turned it off then on drove ok made it home. Decided maybe just a brain fart from having the battery disconnected for so long nope. Took it out maybe 5 miles going up to 45-50 mph car dies TCS off slip and SES light come on. Had it towed back to the shop replaced the Crank position Sensor he just replaced one of them . Took it 400 plus miles the past week no lights but crazy paranoia that there is something just not right. I still feel as if there is something up with my RPMs the tach is as if it is really flimsy hard to describe. During downshifting it feels as if something is pulling and during acceleration it feel as if the RPMs arent matching what the amount of gas I am putting into it ( almost feels like my gas pedal is a heavy rock when starting to accelerate. This shop had fantastic reviews all over good guy but still a bit uneasy. Any help my brain is fried. Thanks all

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You might have clogged cats

My CEL light was off to but when I did a scan the code was still there, just cause it's off doesn't mean there's nothing wrong
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/\.....this....have the codes read...you may have a convertoer or O2 sensor issue...
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Thanks for the info/help. Anyone know of a good Nissan Mechanic in the Chicago area, minus the Dealer? The place I went to to get all this work done stated towards the end we really haven't worked on many 2006 mainly older. Made me feel real comfortable
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I highly doubt its the cats causing the car to be slow. My car has been throwing that code for over a year now and I can still rip up the streets. I take it you're not mechanically inclined so I won't even tell you to check all the electrical sensor connections and grounds, especially since you've had some major work done on it. Happens a lot, even the best mechanics can forget to put everything back together the way it was. What you are describing happened to me years ago when I didn't push the MAF sensor plug all the way in. The car felt like it had 100hp. I'm not saying that's what your problem is but that a thorough inspection of hoses, electrical connections, grounds is needed. And make sure the spark plug coils are in the right order, lol, I did that once when I was cleaning the fuel injectors.



Updated: I retract my earlier statement about the cats. I forgot that I have Racing Line high flow cats. They have a metallic core which won't break down and clog. However yours are ceramic and if they go bad they can break up and become clogged. Hope that clears some things up.
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Thanks for the info/help. Anyone know of a good Nissan Mechanic in the Chicago area, minus the Dealer? The place I went to to get all this work done stated towards the end we really haven't worked on many 2006 mainly older. Made me feel real comfortable :eek:
^^^This tells me that whoever performed the work is not confident/expierienced. I mean how much older??? you have almost the same procedure dating back to VQ30 or any quad motor???

My question to you is: How was the engine performing prior to timing tensioner job. I realize it was knocking as they usually do, but the throttle response should have been unafeected unless the timing jumped.

Your rear catalyst code has no affect on performance, unless the cats were clogged but you would have the same symptoms prior to tensioner repairs/replacements.

There is also the posibility that throttle relearn was not performed or performed infcorrectly as well as idle air...

Lots of possibilities but ultimately you need to find someone reputable that has some Newer Nissan expierience/confidence.
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^^^This tells me that whoever performed the work is not confident/expierienced. I mean how much older??? you have almost the same procedure dating back to VQ30 or any quad motor???

My question to you is: How was the engine performing prior to timing tensioner job. I realize it was knocking as they usually do, but the throttle response should have been unafeected unless the timing jumped.

Your rear catalyst code has no affect on performance, unless the cats were clogged but you would have the same symptoms prior to tensioner repairs/replacements.

There is also the posibility that throttle relearn was not performed or performed infcorrectly as well as idle air...

Lots of possibilities but ultimately you need to find someone reputable that has some Newer Nissan expierience/confidence.

The engine was performing well. I just had the constant whining noise from the tensioner that went south.

My idle sits at .8 in park fluctuates up to 1 with the AC compressor. I do notice when I barely hit the gas making no speed increase the tach moves like I got on it a bit. Before I got the throttle relearn done the tach was jumping almost up to 2 like I was pressing the accelerator. Just really feels sluggish/overworked especially up hills. When I let off the gas I also notice it doesnt slow down as fast as it used to I have to make sure I hit the brakes a bit earlier

Questions What is Idle air? The dealership did the relearn so I would hope this was part of the process.

If the Timing jumped would it fit these symptoms. If so something I should listen or look for?

I would just like some knowledge/ammo to state facts to look for when I bring it back into a mechanic.

Thanks again for all the info you all have helped with so far even for a noob lol
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Whats up all,

Anyone here had a leak. What are some warning signs that may occur? 2006 Maxima SE 3.5


I have noticed my acceleration from the start being a bit of a drag, Really reacts different going up and down hills.. Runs rough in park for a a few seconds, once I shift into R or D its good.. I had a SES a few months back that turned out to be CAT converter or o2, turned off and never came back on. Just had new sparks,chain,tensioners and guides put in not sure if this has anything to do with

Any info you can give would be awesome. Thanks in advance!!!
First welcome...secondly sounds like the precats gone bad if your under 80k nissan will replace them no charge but if your past 80k miles then good luck ive had this problem for a cool minute now and the car defenitely feels like it doesnt accelerate to the fullest like if its stuck so im just getting hfpc from deep007 in a week or so but yea it sounds like pre cat problems
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The engine was performing well. I just had the constant whining noise from the tensioner that went south.

My idle sits at .8 in park fluctuates up to 1 with the AC compressor. I do notice when I barely hit the gas making no speed increase the tach moves like I got on it a bit. Before I got the throttle relearn done the tach was jumping almost up to 2 like I was pressing the accelerator. Just really feels sluggish/overworked especially up hills. When I let off the gas I also notice it doesnt slow down as fast as it used to I have to make sure I hit the brakes a bit earlier

Questions What is Idle air? The dealership did the relearn so I would hope this was part of the process.

If the Timing jumped would it fit these symptoms. If so something I should listen or look for?

I would just like some knowledge/ammo to state facts to look for when I bring it back into a mechanic.

Thanks again for all the info you all have helped with so far even for a noob lol
If the timing jumped it would have prior to your tensioner repair. As you vehicle was functioning properly (other then he noise from the chain slop)

If you use the process of elimination then one has to look at the repair made being the problem.

One thing could be that the timing was not set properly.

As you stated the dealer did the idle air relearn so that probably eliminates that possibility as they would have done the throttle relearn also as its part of the procedure for idle air relearn.

If timing is incorrect you will experience exactly your symptoms. You vehicle will be sluggish....

Idle air is tied directly to your timing and a re-leArn has to be performed evertime timing is done/ battery is disconnected for over 72 hrs or electronic throttle is disconnected. All the things that were done when they did the timing components.


You can do all the relearns yourself without any diagnostic equipment. The only one you won't be able to do without a scanner is to stop adaptive learning.
If you'd like to have a stab at it. I can post the links/info.

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If the timing jumped it would have prior to your tensioner repair. As you vehicle was functioning properly (other then he noise from the chain slop)

If you use the process of elimination then one has to look at the repair made being the problem.

One thing could be that the timing was not set properly.

As you stated the dealer did the idle air relearn so that probably eliminates that possibility as they would have done the throttle relearn also as its part of the procedure for idle air relearn.

If timing is incorrect you will experience exactly your symptoms. You vehicle will be sluggish....

Idle air is tied directly to your timing and a re-leArn has to be performed evertime timing is done/ battery is disconnected for over 72 hrs or electronic throttle is disconnected. All the things that were done when they did the timing components.


You can do all the relearns yourself without any diagnostic equipment. The only one you won't be able to do without a scanner is to stop adaptive learning.
If you'd like to have a stab at it. I can post the links/info.

Hope this helps.

I would be willing to give it a try. Sorry for my ignorance I def wasnt born with a wrench in my hand. Would this hopefully be the end of the sluggish acceleration? Like what was stated before the push and pull feel. When I am going up I get the push like I am hauling bricks and the pull when I am going down feels a bit jerky not a smooth coast down hill. You all have been a great help.

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I would be willing to give it a try. Sorry for my ignorance I def wasnt born with a wrench in my hand. Would this hopefully be the end of the sluggish acceleration? Like what was stated before the push and pull feel. When I am going up I get the push like I am hauling bricks and the pull when I am going down feels a bit jerky not a smooth coast down hill. You all have been a great help.


You are welcome. I get this at the shop frequently where customers have little or no automotive knowledge.

The following procedures will ensure that your throttle has been reset and idle relearn has been performed. Will it be the end you ask. I hope so.You must realize that its extremely difficlult to diagnose a vehicle through the internet without hearing it run and someone describing symptoms. Sort of simular for a doctor to diagnose a person with chest pains over the internet. Especially one that has one of the most complicated procedures performed recently (other then doing head gaskets)

If these re-learns do not improve your symptoms you will need to seek professional diagnosis or visit the shop that performed the repairs and tell them whats going on.

Your vehicle must be check engine ligh free (which i believe you stated you are now)and at operating temp. All loads must be off. No Ac, etc...

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1. Make sure that the accelerator pedal is fully released.
2. Turn ignition switch ON and wait at least 2 seconds.
3. Turn ignition switch OFF wait at least 10 seconds.
4. Turn ignition switch ON and wait at least 2 seconds.
5. Turn ignition switch OFF wait at least 10 seconds.

Throttle Valve Closed Position Learning
Operation Procedures

1. Make sure that accelerator pedal is fully released.
2. Turn ignition switch ON.
3. Turn ignition switch is OFF wait at least 10 seconds.

Idle Air Volume Learning It is better to count the time accurately with a clock.

Operation Procedures

1. Perform Accelerator Pedal Released Position Learning.
2. Perform Throttle Valve Closed Position Learning.
3. Start engine and warm it up to normal operating temperature.
4. Turn ignition switch OFF and wait at least 10 seconds.
5. Confirm that accelerator pedal is fully released, turn ignition switch ON and wait 3 seconds.
6. Repeat the following (steps 7a, 7b) procedures quickly five times within 5 seconds.
7a. Fully depress the accelerator pedal (HARD)
7b. Fully release the accelerator pedal.
8. Wait 7 seconds, fully depress the accelerator pedal and keep it for approx. 20 seconds until the Check Engine Light (CEL) stops blinking and turned ON.
9. Fully release the accelerator pedal within 3 seconds after the CEL is ON.
10. Start engine and let it idle.
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You are welcome. I get this at the shop frequently where customers have little or no automotive knowledge.

The following procedures will ensure that your throttle has been reset and idle relearn has been performed. Will it be the end you ask. I hope so.You must realize that its extremely difficlult to diagnose a vehicle through the internet without hearing it run and someone describing symptoms. Sort of simular for a doctor to diagnose a person with chest pains over the internet. Especially one that has one of the most complicated procedures performed recently (other then doing head gaskets)

If these re-learns do not improve your symptoms you will need to seek professional diagnosis or visit the shop that performed the repairs and tell them whats going on.

Your vehicle must be check engine ligh free (which i believe you stated you are now)and at operating temp. All loads must be off. No Ac, etc...

Accelerator Pedal Release Position Learning
Operation Procedure

1. Make sure that the accelerator pedal is fully released.
2. Turn ignition switch ON and wait at least 2 seconds.
3. Turn ignition switch OFF wait at least 10 seconds.
4. Turn ignition switch ON and wait at least 2 seconds.
5. Turn ignition switch OFF wait at least 10 seconds.

Throttle Valve Closed Position Learning
Operation Procedures

1. Make sure that accelerator pedal is fully released.
2. Turn ignition switch ON.
3. Turn ignition switch is OFF wait at least 10 seconds.

Idle Air Volume Learning It is better to count the time accurately with a clock.

Operation Procedures

1. Perform Accelerator Pedal Released Position Learning.
2. Perform Throttle Valve Closed Position Learning.
3. Start engine and warm it up to normal operating temperature.
4. Turn ignition switch OFF and wait at least 10 seconds.
5. Confirm that accelerator pedal is fully released, turn ignition switch ON and wait 3 seconds.
6. Repeat the following (steps 7a, 7b) procedures quickly five times within 5 seconds.
7a. Fully depress the accelerator pedal (HARD)
7b. Fully release the accelerator pedal.
8. Wait 7 seconds, fully depress the accelerator pedal and keep it for approx. 20 seconds until the Check Engine Light (CEL) stops blinking and turned ON.
9. Fully release the accelerator pedal within 3 seconds after the CEL is ON.
10. Start engine and let it idle.
Will give it a try later this weekend. When you stated timing not set correct is this the way to fix or something completely different. Just so if this doesn't work I can bring the timing issue up and what would be the timing if so . Thanks again. I am glad I found this forum only took me 4 years
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Just a update went to Nissan had them check the Idle. They did the idle re learn again seems like my Max is back (knock on wood). Thanks again!!
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Just a update went to Nissan had them check the Idle. They did the idle re learn again seems like my Max is back (knock on wood). Thanks again!!
Anytime, glad you got the Max fixed up buddy.
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That's awesome, @Danski6MT comes through again. Great Job Bro!!
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