04-08: chmax Dyno Thread - my6thgen.org

chmax · 07-21-2011, 11:22 PM

Alright, so here is what I have decided to do. I have been all over this forum and we all want HP and would like to know what the mods we are putting on your cars produce. I found a shop 5 miles from my house that has a dyno, more about that later. What I want to do is, I have a bone stock 08 and I have set up a dyno for the 10th. I know its gonna get costly, but I want to add one mod and then dyno, another mod and dyno, another mod and dyno and so on. So all of us on the ORG will know what mods produce on there own and shed some light on what is really producing the best gains and whats hurting us.

Now the most important part, I spoke to the shop and they are huge mustang and charger guys. You would see that based on there website. So when I called I told them my idea. They have a Dyno Jet dyno which is the most accurate, but they have never ran a front wheel drive and he has no knowledge of the CVT. So come on ORG, chime in, lets get this going together. And find out what are mods are doin.

Here is a list of mods I will be doin, and I will have a dyno done after each. The mods will grow as money does. I have to look at each mod costing me an extra $150 cause of dyno after each.

Air Intake
Cat-Back
Y-Pipe
B.O.P Plate
Plenum Spacer
HFC or Headers

**NiZMo1o1** · 07-21-2011, 11:53 PM

your brave , its going to cost ALOT if your testing EACH mod one by one, and hopefully not one more after another.

Another thing is you have a CVT , so theres a difference in the 4AT/5AT/6SPD

as well as weather temp is a major factor (North Cold , South Tropics ) , elevation (Colorado)

Please share the info with RunFiles , type of Motor oil and weight your using,
Size wheels/tires

Theres ALOT to factor in , good luck !

chmax · 07-22-2011, 12:22 AM

Originally Posted by NiZMo1o1

your brave , its going to cost ALOT if your testing EACH mod one by one, and hopefully not one more after another.

Another thing is you have a CVT , so theres a difference in the 4AT/5AT/6SPD

as well as weather temp is a major factor (North Cold , South Tropics ) , elevation (Colorado)

Please share the info with RunFiles , type of Motor oil and weight your using,
Size wheels/tires

Theres ALOT to factor in , good luck !

Thanks, I know its a big project. I just need to get some feed back on how we can dyno the CVT. Because we cant get it in a gear ratio. I saw someone on here dynoed a CVT but didnt get to much in detail, I hope he chimes in. The guy at the shop also said he could only run the air/fuel down the passenger side. Not sure what he meant by this. Im new to dyno.

**Nismo4Life07** · 07-22-2011, 01:09 AM

Wow, they're charging you $150 for 3 pulls on a dyno??? You should try and get a group price or something so it's not so costly for you.

Also, it's going to be super hard to dyno a cvt, especially of the tech has absolutely no knowledge of the transmission and it's shift points. Paging @iirishsamuraii. He is the one that dyno'd his 6.5 gen.

chmax · 07-22-2011, 01:22 AM

Originally Posted by Nismo4Life07

Wow, they're charging you $150 for 3 pulls on a dyno??? You should try and get a group price or something so it's not so costly for you.

Also, it's going to be super hard to dyno a cvt, especially of the tech has absolutely no knowledge of the transmission and it's shift points. Paging @iirishsamuraii. He is the one that dyno'd his 6.5 gen.

Its $95 for three pulls and $15 per pull after. I was just adding more cause I really dont know how many I will do. I was thinking of caling around, mabe even Speed Force and see if they could help. I have googled with little luck. Just alot of forum discussions about it. And know real answer. Some say I can put it in stick mode. So the other day I was cruising and I down shifted to 4th and then mashed it and the car responded by just rpms going up to red line. Would this work?

05SilverMax · 07-22-2011, 01:39 AM

Wow, this is a great project, very brave of you!
Good luck brother.

vitec115 · 07-22-2011, 01:39 AM

Nice dude,we should see some good info out of this,keep us posted.

chmax · 07-22-2011, 01:52 AM

Originally Posted by vitec115

Nice dude,we should see some good info out of this,keep us posted.

I will keep updating, I really need to find the best way to dyno this thing.

**CJMcBreezy** · 07-22-2011, 04:22 AM

You've got balls I've been holding off for the dyno til I get a good jump on my mods...

**RAZ76** · 07-22-2011, 06:08 AM

Save your money dude. Just do one stock and one with all the parts on. This is not a Ferrari where detailed info is needed for better production. I personally don't care, just like any other car, I know that bolt ons are minimal. As long as it precedes certain goals I have, I don't care.

**1hawaii50** · 07-22-2011, 06:39 AM

Originally Posted by Raz76

Save your money dude. Just do one stock and one with all the parts on. This is not a Ferrari where detailed info is needed for better production. I personally don't care, just like any other car, I know that bolt ons are minimal. As long as it precedes certain goals I have, I don't care.

I kind of agree with Raz76...the money being spent on each dyno session could be used to fund future mods. I don't want to discourage you, it's your money, but I'd be more apt to dyno once before, and once everything is installed.

**EddyMaxx** · 07-22-2011, 08:54 AM

Until you do headers, do not go on the dyno just yet. Get all the mods done first before dyno. No need to test after each one because you aren't really tuning. Some mods cancel each other out if not tuned correctly. So just because you adding more mods, doesn't automatically mean you getting more power. You would need a tune to make the mods work efficiently.

So save your $ and just wait to get a full dyno tune which will give you the best gains for the mods you have. Headers will be a big power maker.

Good Luck!

**Jerzey** · 07-22-2011, 09:04 AM

From what Shayne told me, you must disable the ABS to get accurate dyno results from a vehicle with a CVT transmission. Send him a PM (iirishsamuraii)

**EddyMaxx** · 07-22-2011, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by Jerzey

From what Shayne told me, "you MUST disable the ABS to get accurate dyno results from a vehicle with a CVT transmission". Send him a PM (iirishsamuraii)

Yeah, if the shop has dyno'd CVT's before... then they should take out the ABS fuse.

**Apollos2** · 07-22-2011, 09:44 AM

I like your plan but it will be a little costly. You wont need more than 3 pulls. I would group the smaller mods like BOP, spacers.

Stock - dyno
Intake - dyno
Y-pipe and catback - dyno
or (Intake Y-pipe and catback - dyno
BOP, spacers (any other small mod) - dyno
Headers - Dyno.

chmax · 07-22-2011, 11:01 AM

Thanks for the info everyone. I was only tryin to contribute. I do agree that one dyno after all parts would be the way, and not a costly, But, Im still looking for someone to chime in about how to dyno CVT, not so much about how many times I go get a dyno.

chmax · 07-22-2011, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by Apollos2

I like your plan but it will be a little costly. You wont need more than 3 pulls. I would group the smaller mods like BOP, spacers.

Stock - dyno
Intake - dyno
Y-pipe and catback - dyno
or (Intake Y-pipe and catback - dyno
BOP, spacers (any other small mod) - dyno
Headers - Dyno.

Thanks man, thats probably what I will do. I have 20 days till stock dyno. So I need to find out how to get the most accurate reading with CVT in detail.

**EddyMaxx** · 07-22-2011, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by chmax

Thanks for the info everyone. I was only tryin to contribute. I do agree that one dyno after all parts would be the way, and not a costly, But, Im still looking for someone to chime in about how to dyno CVT, not so much about how many times I go get a dyno.

Can I Dyno My CVT Transmission? (Answer Inside)

chmax · 07-22-2011, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by EddyMaxx

Until you do headers, do not go on the dyno just yet. Get all the mods done first before dyno. No need to test after each one because you aren't really tuning. Some mods cancel each other out if not tuned correctly. So just because you adding more mods, doesn't automatically mean you getting more power. You would need a tune to make the mods work efficiently.

So save your $ and just wait to get a full dyno tune which will give you the best gains for the mods you have. Headers will be a big power maker.

Good Luck!

Thanks Eddy, I see what your sayin. My main goal is to find out how to dyno CVT.