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Old 07-04-2011, 04:44 AM   Thread Starter #1
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Default Switchbacks Issues With Brake Lights

Call me freakin crazy, but I installed new switchbacks from v-leds.com 2 days ago. Plugged in just fine and worked wonderful. I just noticed, however, that when I press ON MY BRAKES, the switchbacks turn off. I take my foot off the brakes, and they turn white again.

I took off my Black LED tails few weeks ago and sold them, but left the resisters installed with stock tails. I thought that was the problem, so I took off the resisters this morning. Obviously, I had the fast blinking, but the brake/switchback issue is still the same. I press the brakes, the switchbacks turn off. Brakes off, switchbacks turn on fine. I don't know WTF is the issue, but it's seriously pissing me the hell off. I never noticed this issue before because I never looked at my switchbacks while braking..

Any ideas on what it could be? There was a lot of splicing in the front turn signal wiring, but I cleaned it all up and cut all the extra wires off and left the original wires. I still can't seem to track it.

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Default Re: Switchbacks Issues With Brake Lights

Rani,
Stupid question, but did you throw the stock bulbs in and see what happens? Do you have a test light to check the wires when you turn on the signals? I'd start with the stock bulbs and see if they work correctly...if they do, the issue may be the switchbacks. I think VLEDs has a couple different types...did you get the right ones?
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Old 07-04-2011, 05:58 AM   Thread Starter #3
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Rani,
Stupid question, but did you throw the stock bulbs in and see what happens? Do you have a test light to check the wires when you turn on the signals? I'd start with the stock bulbs and see if they work correctly...if they do, the issue may be the switchbacks. I think VLEDs has a couple different types...did you get the right ones?

This is what I got:

http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED-B...51397-1-2.html

It's the exact same type I bought back in 2010 for the white max, and they worked beautiful. I installed them without dropping the bumper, which was a PITA to do and a very tight squeeze. I'll try the stock bulbs tomorrow and see how they turn out.
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Default Re: Switchbacks Issues With Brake Lights

im thinking maybe you just got a pair of wacky bulbs..
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Default Re: Switchbacks Issues With Brake Lights

+1 bad buls or damage some how after install.
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Default Re: Switchbacks Issues With Brake Lights

Check the wiring at the tail light. Pull them and see if any of the wires got smashed between the tail light assembly and the body. Could also be a problem in the wiring anywhere from the BCU under the dash to the rear or the car. All of the wiring runs inside a white plastic channel in the door openings on the drivers side.

Every exterior light on the car is controlled by the BCU with the exception of the brake and reverse lights. They are controlled by a switch on the brake peddle and and by the TCU.
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Default Re: Switchbacks Issues With Brake Lights

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Check the wiring at the tail light. Pull them and see if any of the wires got smashed between the tail light assembly and the body. Could also be a problem in the wiring anywhere from the BCU under the dash to the rear or the car. All of the wiring runs inside a white plastic channel in the door openings on the drivers side.

Every exterior light on the car is controlled by the BCU with the exception of the brake and reverse lights. They are controlled by a switch on the brake peddle and and by the TCU.
Soooooooooo what am I checking got in the BCU wirings
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Default Re: Switchbacks Issues With Brake Lights

Good point (and sorry for the messy wiring up front!) I pinched a wire in the taillight bolt and it did some weird stuff...
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Default Re: Switchbacks Issues With Brake Lights

I have the same problem but with only one side, it turns off for a split second when i brake, and it also turns off when i go from drive to reverse. I know a few more people had the same problem on the big org.
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Default Re: Switchbacks Issues With Brake Lights

I had the same issue you had. I went between a few different shops and none of them could figure it out even after tracing all the wiring. In the end, I just ended up contacting VLEDs and they took the bulbs and resistors back because they said Maximas and Altimas have a lot of problems with the switchbacks. Another problem I had that you might have is hold the brake and turn on your turn signal while in drive. For mine, one would flash orange and the other would alternate between dim and bright. Also, if you put it in reverse while holding the brake, your issues may come back too.

Im starting to wonder if there is some indirect correlation between switchbacks only working for people with LED tails versus people without. Everyone who said theirs works with no problems seemed to have LED tails..
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Where did you get it? I found the pic online but I would def want a shirt!
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Default Re: Switchbacks Issues With Brake Lights

I put on stock bulbs an they work fine with braking.

Ordered 3ohm resistors, 6ohm resistors and surge protectors last night from autolumination. I'll put on the the 3ohms when I get them with stock tails to see of it'd solve the issue.

Is it 3 ohm or 6ohm with stock tails?
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Its 6 ohm for stocks
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Its 6 ohm for stocks
Cool. I'll wait few days and put in my resistors and track the issue down. I'll switch the switchbacks bulbs from the white max to see if it's the bulbs or something else
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Thanks bro. Ill prob be ordering one of these after the GB for the LED tails
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Default Re: Switchbacks Issues With Brake Lights

YOU ARE FREAKIN CRAZY!!! (You said to call you that) Its 3 ohm for stocks. I have 6 ohm with the EZs. Maybe that's the problem, you have 6 ohm running with the stocks instead of 3 ohm. That or it could be the switchbacks themselves.

How To Install Resistors (If You Have LED Turn Signals)
J installed the 3 ohms on the stocks on that thread, but for the EZs you gotta have 6 ohm.
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Pretty sure it's 6ohm with stock tails. That's what I'm running with switchbacks only.

I remember hearing from a handful of others that LED tails - 3ohm and stock tails = 6ohm.
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Pretty sure it's 6ohm with stock tails. That's what I'm running with switchbacks only.

I remember hearing from a handful of others that LED tails - 3ohm and stock tails = 6ohm.
Lol 3 or 6 ohms is a whole other confusing debate. That's why I ordered both lol
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How To Install Resistors (If You Have LED Turn Signals)

The DIY thread for installing resistors by Eddy states 6 ohm resistors for leds in the front or rear only, 3 ohm resistors for leds in the front AND rear.
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Pretty sure it's 6ohm with stock tails. That's what I'm running with switchbacks only.

I remember hearing from a handful of others that LED tails - 3ohm and stock tails = 6ohm.
If you have the EZ tails, you act as if you don't have LEDs in the rear...they have their own built in.

I have the EZ tails AND the front LED switchbacks...I'm using the 6ohm resistors. I'm absolutely positive they are 6ohm...I just checked my VLEDs order history to confirm. If you have front AND rear LED signal bulbs (in the OEM housings), then you would need 3ohm resistors. For front LEDs and EZ tails, you need the 6ohm resistors.
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Can't I just install both and call it a day lol
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Default Re: Switchbacks Issues With Brake Lights

Originally Posted by Deadbolt View Post
Can't I just install both and call it a day lol
With all the problems you're having, it probably wouldn't hurt!

Trust me, if you have the EZ tails, or the stock rear turn signal bulbs, you need the 6ohm resistors.
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