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Old 08-10-2011, 12:23 AM   Thread Starter #1
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My 04 max came with HID's and I want to upgrade just the bulbs to 10k D2S for a slightly bluish output. I called up DDM but they couldn't help me with which HID replacement bulb I should get. They said I need some number from the HID bulb?

Do you guys know which DDM HID bulb would be a replacement for my 04 max HID kit?
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Its a D2S Bulb.
I would suggest 8000k over 10000k though.
8k would have a blueish tint, the 10k will be more blueish green.
I have them for $50 shipped w/ lifetime warranty, and obviously better customer service if they wouldn't take the time to check the #'s for ya.

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these are for Stock hids correct?
Or, did the previous owner put in a kit?
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As far as I know, the D2S is the only number you need.

FYI - http://my6thgen.org/showthread.php?t=4838
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Its a D2S Bulb.
I would suggest 8000k over 10000k though.
8k would have a blueish tint, the 10k will be more blueish green.
I have them for $50 shipped w/ lifetime warranty, and obviously better customer service if they wouldn't take the time to check the #'s for ya.

edit;
these are for Stock hids correct?
Or, did the previous owner put in a kit?
Can't go wrong here!
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Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
Its a D2S Bulb.
I would suggest 8000k over 10000k though.
8k would have a blueish tint, the 10k will be more blueish green.
I have them for $50 shipped w/ lifetime warranty, and obviously better customer service if they wouldn't take the time to check the #'s for ya.

edit;
these are for Stock hids correct?
Or, did the previous owner put in a kit?
Pretty good deal! Do you have an output chart of your 8000k HID bulbs? Just want to see how blue it is. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by officerfrasher View Post
As far as I know, the D2S is the only number you need.

FYI - http://my6thgen.org/showthread.php?t=4838
Thanks for the FYI...

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Yes. Just Like This.
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Yes. Just Like This.
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Get them from max dude,best service,killer warranty and a great price..
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Here is a pic of mine. 35w 8000k. Pretty much useless in snow at night. Fog lights are 8000k also but i turned them off because all they did is add glare.

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I would agree with you DAlastDON I have 8000k fogs and 6000k heads and yes it looks good but function is of top priority to me over looks, thats why I did the 6000 heads.
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Pretty good deal! Do you have an output chart of your 8000k HID bulbs? Just want to see how blue it is. Thanks.
I don't have a chart.
Here's a pic of the 8000k next to 6000k fogs for comparison.

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I haven't tried the 10000k so I don't have a pic of them for you
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Here is a pic of mine. 35w 8000k. Pretty much useless in snow at night. Fog lights are 8000k also but i turned them off because all they did is add glare.

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thanks for the pic! that definitely helped me in seeing how blue it is. but you're saying the intensity isn't that great at night, right?

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I would agree with you DAlastDON I have 8000k fogs and 6000k heads and yes it looks good but function is of top priority to me over looks, thats why I did the 6000 heads.
so what color is your 6000k? they're more of a white output, right?


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I don't have a chart.
Here's a pic of the 8000k next to 6000k fogs for comparison.

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I haven't tried the 10000k so I don't have a pic of them for you


thanks for the help bro. Let me check on a few things and i'll hit you up on PM about payment. thanks.
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thanks for the pic! that definitely helped me in seeing how blue it is. but you're saying the intensity isn't that great at night, right?



so what color is your 6000k? they're more of a white output, right?






thanks for the help bro. Let me check on a few things and i'll hit you up on PM about payment. thanks.

My 6000k heads are white with a hint of blue, more like a BMW blue. If you go higher then 6000k you might have a hard time seeing in bad weather. If you have any children that travel in your car and you care about them stick with the 6000k
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When you increase the the temperature, you lose actual visible light. I had 8000k bulbs before, they looked nice but I couldn't see very clearly in bad weather... Even sometimes at night, everything would just be very blue lol I went with 6000k, and personally i like them much better than 8000k

IMO, i wouldn't sacrifice the safety of being able to see for pure asthetics.
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Agreed.

6000k is best option for lamps.
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thanks for the pic! that definitely helped me in seeing how blue it is. but you're saying the intensity isn't that great at night, right?
On a clear night they are great. The blueish color makes anything with a reflective surface such as signs or roadway reflectors light up for what seems to be about 3/4 mile away, especially if there is an uphill slop ahead. They also make deer stand out very well. Dunno what is it about their coat that makes them stand out so much. I call the high beams "daylight on demand". The amount of light that reflects back off of signs sometimes blind the shit out of me till i get past them.

In rain/snow there is alot of light reflected back from the fog lights creating a bad glare. What makes them not so good at night is the lack of a yellow contrast to cut though the rain/snow. It is like that with most lights though.

Its not a priority, but eventually i will change it up to 4000K in the fog lights for a nice yellow contrast right in front of the car. Should help out tremendously in rain/snow as far as seeing right in front of the car. The head lights, i may keep them at 8000k or i may change them out with 6000k. It would still have a hint of blue but have more white light output.

I would not go above 8000k. It will give you the blue that you desire but you lose a small amount of visible light. I would not even want to drive at night with a pair of 10000k HID's. You will be happy with either 6000k or 8000k, I'm sure of it.

Max power has a good product line and from what i have seen excellent customer service. I used his ballasts to replace all four of my original ballasts due to interference with my HD radio. The ones he uses are the slim digital ballasts and they cause very little degradation in the FM reception.
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On a clear night they are great. The blueish color makes anything with a reflective surface such as signs or roadway reflectors light up for what seems to be about 3/4 mile away, especially if there is an uphill slop ahead. They also make deer stand out very well. Dunno what is it about their coat that makes them stand out so much. I call the high beams "daylight on demand". The amount of light that reflects back off of signs sometimes blind the shit out of me till i get past them.

In rain/snow there is alot of light reflected back from the fog lights creating a bad glare. What makes them not so good at night is the lack of a yellow contrast to cut though the rain/snow. It is like that with most lights though.

Its not a priority, but eventually i will change it up to 4000K in the fog lights for a nice yellow contrast right in front of the car. Should help out tremendously in rain/snow as far as seeing right in front of the car. The head lights, i may keep them at 8000k or i may change them out with 6000k. It would still have a hint of blue but have more white light output.

I would not go above 8000k. It will give you the blue that you desire but you lose a small amount of visible light. I would not even want to drive at night with a pair of 10000k HID's. You will be happy with either 6000k or 8000k, I'm sure of it.

Max power has a good product line and from what i have seen excellent customer service. I used his ballasts to replace all four of my original ballasts due to interference with my HD radio. The ones he uses are the slim digital ballasts and they cause very little degradation in the FM reception.

wow, i thought i wanted 8000k but after hearing all you guys feedback i think i'm just gonna order the 6000k's. I'm doing 3000k fogs from DDM, already bought them. Hopefully it'll have a nice contrast.

Can anyone tell me what the stock HID's are that come with the 04 max? the output is white so i'm guessing they're 4000k??
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OEM is between 4000K and 4300K.
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As was stated, 6K is the highest you would want to go. Any higher and you are losing light output. Going with 8K, or 10K is also just aking to be pulled over....IMHO!
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Thanks for the feedback fellas! I guess 6000k it is! Time to hit up Mr. Max Power!
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As was stated, 6K is the highest you would want to go. Any higher and you are losing light output. Going with 8K, or 10K is also just aking to be pulled over....IMHO!
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Old 08-11-2011, 12:05 AM   #24
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Yeah stick with 6000k because you will lose visibility. And 6000 is white with a tiny hint of blue so it is perfect. I have 6000k heads and fogs and they are perfect, but I'm thinking of s witching the fogs to 3000. My 07 that has factory HID needed D2S bulb.
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Default Re: Need Help With HID Bulb

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Yeah stick with 6000k because you will lose visibility. And 6000 is white with a tiny hint of blue so it is perfect. I have 6000k heads and fogs and they are perfect, but I'm thinking of s witching the fogs to 3000. My 07 that has factory HID needed D2S bulb.
Does the 6000k cause street and highway signs to light up and sometimes reflect and blind you if you happen to be looking at them. Does it make anything with a reflective surface on it stand out more?
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