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Old 11-10-2011, 11:50 PM   Thread Starter #1
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Hey everyone so my setup is I have stock projector hid headlights and all I have replaced is the bulb to a ddmtuning 6k bulb. For fogs right now I am waiting on a warranty exchange but I usually have 6k ddmtuning 35watt. The fogs are really good but I notice that on the road my lights aren't as bright as other people's. I understand that in non projector housings the light just goes everywhere becaue I had an impala and I can relate but still, I feel that these lights can be a lot brighter. I was passing this Audi A4 today with white hids and white plate lights and passing it, I couldn't even see my lights where I could see the audi's all over the road . Once again I have an 07 with stock hid, just replaced the bulb and 35watt 6k in the bottom since maybe May. Thanks
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OEM>Aftermarket, any day. Those DDM's don't have the same quality as oem manufacturers like Philips, McCulloch, Denso, Osram etc...
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So you think I should order D2S phillips bulbs for righter and better lighting? $99 per pair or each? And how about fogs?
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You do have projectors in your headlights. I think your problem is DDM tuning sucks. Get some of the Phillips HIDs or max power HIDs. I have his and they are awesome
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You do have projectors in your headlights. I think your problem is DDM tuning sucks. Get some of the Phillips HIDs or max power HIDs. I have his and they are awesome
Sometimes, you actually do get what you pay for....There's a reason their kits cost $30. That being said, I have them in my fogs (I bought them when they were $100 ) and they seem to be ok. Not sure on the quality though...in a year, I've replaced one ballast, and now the other side will intermittently not light...I'm guessing that ballast is going too...
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So you think I should order D2S phillips bulbs for righter and better lighting? $99 per pair or each? And how about fogs?
I've had Philips 5K 85126CV, pure white top and bottom, loved them, but then got a little too boring, so I switched to Philips Ultinon 6K top and bottom, haven't had a problem with them, and they add a distinguished blueish/purplish surrounding with there red sand they have in the beam of the bulb. I'd go for them.
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Ok I'm convinced to get some Phillips now. Can someone lead me in the right direction on which ones to order. i have an 07 with Hid projectors and I guess I need a complete hid set for fogs. Right now I have all 6K. Thanks everyone.
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Ok I'm convinced to get some Phillips now. Can someone lead me in the right direction on which ones to order. i have an 07 with Hid projectors and I guess I need a complete hid set for fogs. Right now I have all 6K. Thanks everyone.
First off, it's going to cost ya. There are plenty of ways to do this, as for the main headlights, all you need is this set

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Philips-D2S-...item1e64371ca7

As for the fog lamps, that's a whole different ball game. You can either buy this kit and see if it matches(I'm sure these will match).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PHILIPS-HID-...item4cfb9ea516

Or, you can buy these bulbs which are a direct match, and retrofit some oem ballast.

http://hidconcept.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=10
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If you want it your car to have the same brightness as that audi all you had to do is order a 55W kit but that is just me , i just made a order for 10,000k fogs and heads from ddm i want it a lil more blue then my last 55w 8000k from DDM good luck
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Well our stock projectors are 55watt I thought so it's just the bulb I change and fogs I don't think they can handle the 55watt. And anyone have any pics of the phillips on the max?
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You don't want 55w HIDs in the fogs unless you are trying to melt the housings...they won't handle the heat!


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Yeah that's what I was trying to say.
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I have pics of the Philips but on a 5.5 Gen, let me know if you still want to see them.
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Yeah sure let's see them, I'm just worried that they wouldn't make too much of a difference than my ddm right now because I have projectors? The fogs are really birght though no complaints there.
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Pics aren't that great and a little out dated, but they look the same.

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Hmmm, those look like they light up pretty good distance but still, I have projectors so it wouldn't look like that. Hmmm
Thanks for the pics though. This is such a tough decision haha.
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Hmmm, those look like they light up pretty good distance but still, I have projectors so it wouldn't look like that. Hmmm
Thanks for the pics though. This is such a tough decision haha.
Here is an FJ Cruiser with them, there are a bunch of vids on youtube.

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If you want brighter, then go with the 5K Philips, part# 85122CV, but the fogs will have to be retrofitted and cost $70 each bulb.
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I switched my factory bulbs to retrofitsource.com Morimoto bulbs and I love them. Great brightness with awesome color (5000k).
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I switched my factory bulbs to retrofitsource.com Morimoto bulbs and I love them. Great brightness with awesome color (5000k).
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Before you go spending money on bulbs, you must first understand that your output will never look like the A4's unless you do a projector retrofit. The Maxima uses Hella E55 bi-xenon projectors, which are known for having a mediocre low-beam and a great high-beam. The A4 I believe uses Valeo projectors which have a really good low-beam. Using the same bulbs and ballasts, the A4 will have greater output. On top of that, you are using aftermarket AND 6000K bulbs. If you want bright white light, wait until Sylvania releases the Silverstar D2S bulbs, known as the Osram Cool Blue Intense 66240CBI in foreign countries.
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@joecurr Thanks for all that info, now that made a lot of sense. Honestly ever since I got into the HID game all I got was DDM, I didn't know the more expensive would be better, and for my fogs, when I get the warranty exchange in the mail I might just leave 5k down there since they are still hella white. As for my heads those are the real problem because they seem like they are losing brightness and I understand 6k is not as bright as 5k and what not. All I wanted was to see what my fella maximas were rocking in their projectors to see if it's just me with the bad brand/bulbs or if it was normal. Damn lucky A4 haha, but actually there's this kid at my school who has a newer Altima with 6k hids and those things are bright. You can see the direction of the beam when he's turning but I understand they don't have projectors like us. But anyway so I was just trying to see what everyone is using in their projectors and how different it is from what I have and if it was worth it to get these Phillips....
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My initial bulb upgrade were 8k McCulloch bulbs and they were amazing. I did have the OEM hid projectors though. But paying $30 for a kit, I'm surprised they lit up at all!


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Hahahaha, all I'm asking is to see some people's oem bulbs in our projectors, I want to see the difference between those and what I have before I order.
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Here is a good projector comparison for informative purposes.
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/show...-TL-E55-FX-etc
If you see Acura TL's, TSX's, Infinity FX's, or Honda S2000's on the road at night, you'll notice that those cars have GREAT output OEM.

Getting pictures from other people will be different than in person comparisons. Cameras will capture things differently and what you may like in a picture may not be what you get. That Altima with 6000K headlights, are those in reflector headlights? They may "appear" brighter because they are whiter and probably have brighter foreground light, but for actual usability they more than likely aren't very good. What amount are you looking to spend on bulbs? You should definitely go with OEM, just a matter of how much you're willing to spend.
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