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Old 02-21-2012, 01:47 PM   Thread Starter #1
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Hey guys and gals.....im so lost...ok basically i have a 1989 camaro rs with a stock alternator and battery my buddy has a 1982 elcamino wit (8) eight powerhorns underneath 2 15's in the cab a 4000 watt amp and a 400 for the highs and all he is using the stock alt with a bigger battery (i believe its a 800cca battery) he has no flashing or cut out or anything however little ol me with my 2 12"s 1200 watt amp and speakers ran off the deck get the flashing lights and rpm gauge goes down like crazy

my question is is it better to get a HO alternator or a bigger battery and why cause it seems a bigger battery is working for him LOL THANK YOU!!!!!!!
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Well it depends how old is your battery and how many cca's is it pushing? I doubt you need a new alternator although it would be recommended but not necessary, there's plenty of batteries that can help you out with your problem, I'm currently running a single Kinetik 1800 I was running 2 batteries but got rid of one, and I'm still pretty food with an 1800
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and also you have to thing about if his system is true 4000 rms power, that seems pretty high for a really old car to not be cutting off, my friend has a "3000 watt amp" in his 1990 300zx that can run off a gameboy battery lol unlike me who has about the same rms and my amps are fiending for power lol
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Id always buy the best battery you can afford.

Getting a new alternator is always a good idea. Stocker's arent really designed to handle that much. An HO will do you good.
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Alternator. That's what is supplying power while the car is running. The battery is used to start the car.
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Default Re: Bigger Battery or Bigger Alternator

the battery is like a year old a lil simple 550 duralast battery and im thinkin since im not running nothing crazy just a 400 watt amp for highs and 1200 for subs i shouldnt need that much ya know
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the battery is like a year old a lil simple 550 duralast battery and im thinkin since im not running nothing crazy just a 400 watt amp for highs and 1200 for subs i shouldnt need that much ya know
Youll be fine with what you have. Just get a grounding kit from @1hawaii50 and youll be good to go.
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ok guys so i took my crappy battery to get tested and found out i was only pushin 335 amps out the batter WTF!!!!!!!!!! so i took it in and my buddy was workin there....long story short....i walked out with a 1000 cca battery top and side post FOR FREE hahahhaha wish me luck tonight wehn i hook up all the goods
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ok guys so i took my crappy battery to get tested and found out i was only pushin 335 amps out the batter WTF!!!!!!!!!! so i took it in and my buddy was workin there....long story short....i walked out with a 1000 cca battery top and side post FOR FREE hahahhaha wish me luck tonight wehn i hook up all the goods
What kind of battery?(1000cca)
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You realize CCA's have nothing to do with the out put of the battery after starting it,right? 12 volts is 12 volts...
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You realize CCA's have nothing to do with the out put of the battery after starting it,right? 12 volts is 12 volts...
Doesn't it help with headlight dimming?
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Doesn't it help with headlight dimming?
Cold Cranking Amps...this is important if you live some where with harsh conditions.
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Cold Cranking Amps...this is important if you live some where with harsh conditions.
Yeah I know, my mistake, grounding kits and bigger wires help with dimming lights lol but a bigger battery won't hurt
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its a autocraft gold im not sure on type cause it barley fit in my camaro but this thing is beast and sorry it says 1000 ca and 880 cca
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As was stated before, your battery is simply used to start the car...your alternator runs the car/electronics once the engine is running. A large battery is good if you constantly listen to your music with the car off. The question would be, if your audio system overpowers your alternator, will it then draw on battery power to make up the deficit? I would think YES, but I'm not sure. Your alternator then has to work harder to keep that large battery charged...
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As was stated before, your battery is simply used to start the car...your alternator runs the car/electronics once the engine is running. A large battery is good if you constantly listen to your music with the car off. The question would be, if your audio system overpowers your alternator, will it then draw on battery power to make up the deficit? I would think YES, but I'm not sure. Your alternator then has to work harder to keep that large battery charged...
I believe it does Don. Thats why huge systems run multiple batteries.
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I believe it does Don. Thats why huge systems run multiple batteries.
At that point you are over-stressing your alternator as it is trying to keep your battery/batteries charged to capacity.

I would start with a good grounding kit. You next step will be an alternator and/or another battery, or multiple batteries. Start with the grounding kit and build from there.
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Honestly I would do a better alternator and/or relocate a battery to the trunk.
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At that point you are over-stressing your alternator as it is trying to keep your battery/batteries charged to capacity.

I would start with a good grounding kit. You next step will be an alternator and/or another battery, or multiple batteries. Start with the grounding kit and build from there.
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I don't get why someone would run like 2+ batteries with a STOCK alternator.
Probably cost factor. Running a second battery is way cheaper than upgrading your alt.
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Probably cost factor. Running a second battery is way cheaper than upgrading your alt.
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You can never have a GREAT system by cheaping out.
Thats for sure. I have more invested in wiring than some peoples complete systems.
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Default Re: Bigger Battery or Bigger Alternator

Like previously stated, get a stronger alternator. After the car is started, your car will run without the battery since the alternator is providing (or is supposed to provide) all the power. Your alternator should match the output of anything in the car drawing power, plus more. A good battery, while nice to have, is not the solution (and neither are capacitors).
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