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Old 05-06-2012, 03:53 PM   Thread Starter #1
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Default Wilwood Caliper Brake Noise

After installing the wilwood and Hawk pads i get mad loud squeal when braking at low speed. it starts from 40mph to dead stop. after hard breaking its louder the car horn and you can hear it from far away. I also posted on Facebook and seems like other people have the same problem. Hero782 tried different pads but he still have the squeal and the wired part is that passenger make a lot more noise then driver side. Should i try wilwood pads?

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Default Re: Wilwood Caliper Brake Noise.

Did you do the bedding correctly? It has to be that or the pads because it can't be anything else. These are brand new.
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Default Re: Wilwood Caliper Brake Noise.

more then not, it has to be the pads...who did the install? that noise is loud as hell
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Default Re: Wilwood Caliper Brake Noise.

Originally Posted by RAZ76 View Post
Did you do the bedding correctly? It has to be that or the pads because it can't be anything else. These are brand new.
yes i did. hero782 have the same problem with these and he tried different pads. hes gonna call fastbreaks

i bleed them this way i did inside bottom, outside bottom, inside top then outside top.

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Default Re: Wilwood Caliper Brake Noise.

Originally Posted by KZ 259 View Post
more then not, it has to be the pads...who did the install? that noise is loud as hell
i install them my self. im sure it has something to do with the pads.
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Default Re: Wilwood Caliper Brake Noise.

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yes i did. hero782 have the same problem with these and he tried different pads. hes gonna call fastbreaks

i bleed them this way i did inside bottom, outside bottom, inside top then outside top.
Not bleeding, bedding.
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Default Re: Wilwood Caliper Brake Noise.

Mine squealed like crazy until they bedded in. I still get some low speed squeal when they are hot, but the noise was ridiculous at first...
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Default Re: Wilwood Caliper Brake Noise

Originally Posted by 1hawaii50 View Post
Mine squealed like crazy until they bedded in. I still get some low speed squeal when they are hot, but the noise was ridiculous at first...
oo ok so we have four guys who have this issue now.
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Default Re: Wilwood Caliper Brake Noise.

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oo ok so we have four guys who have this issue now.
That leads me to believe that bedding(not Bleeding) was not properly done.
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Default Re: Wilwood Caliper Brake Noise

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That leads me to believe that bedding(not Bleeding) was not properly done.
I guess bro. Then people are changing brake pads and rotors for no reason when the bedding is not done properly.

So how do you bed-in these calipers?
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Default Re: Wilwood Caliper Brake Noise.

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I guess bro. Then people are changing brake pads and rotors for no reason when the bedding is not done properly.

Probably!

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So how do you bed-in these calipers?

  1. After installing new brake pads, make 6 to 10 stops from approximately 30-35 mph applying moderate pressure.
  2. Make an additional 2 to 3 hard stops from approximately 40 to 45 mph.
  3. DO NOT DRAG BRAKES!
  4. Allow 15 minutes for brake system to cool down.
  5. After step 4 your new pads are ready for use.
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Default Re: Wilwood Caliper Brake Noise.

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I guess bro. Then people are changing brake pads and rotors for no reason when the bedding is not done properly.

So how do you bed-in these calipers?
You bed pads,not calipers. There is usually several steps you have to take to do it properly. Check with your pad manufacturer.


Oops...Raz beat me to it.
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Default Re: Wilwood Caliper Brake Noise.

Originally Posted by 07maximan View Post


You bed pads,not calipers. There is usually several steps you have to take to do it properly. Check with your pad manufacturer.
I posted Hawks Bed in procedure.
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Default Re: Wilwood Caliper Brake Noise

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Probably!



  1. After installing new brake pads, make 6 to 10 stops from approximately 30-35 mph applying moderate pressure.
  2. Make an additional 2 to 3 hard stops from approximately 40 to 45 mph.
  3. DO NOT DRAG BRAKES!
  4. Allow 15 minutes for brake system to cool down.
  5. After step 4 your new pads are ready for use.
Got it thanks.
So this means I fucke up the pads now? And have to buy new pads and apply this to them?
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Default Re: Wilwood Caliper Brake Noise

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You bed pads,not calipers. There is usually several steps you have to take to do it properly. Check with your pad manufacturer.


Oops...Raz beat me to it.
I didn't follow those sets so that's means I have to buy new pads?
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Default Re: Wilwood Caliper Brake Noise.

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I didn't follow those sets so that's means I have to buy new pads?
Before you go and do that, do the bed in procedure first.
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Default Re: Wilwood Caliper Brake Noise.

i tried the hawk bedding steps its still the same shit.
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Default Re: Wilwood Caliper Brake Noise.

Starting yesterday, my brakes are now constantly squealing from 25-30mph until I come to a complete stop. As soon as they warm up, it is constant. When they are cooled, they are fine. After a few minutes of driving, they squeal constantly when braking and the car slows to 25-30mph.

I contacted FastBrakes and he told me that he's been using these pads for a while and never had ANY noise issues. I told him that there are a handful of members here having this problem. He said that due to the design of the calipers that some noise could be expected. He also recommended installing the Wilwood pad shims. I've done a little google digging on the shims, and it seems that in some cases it cured the problem, and in other cases it made no difference whatsoever. It seems silly to have to spend another $22 for shims after shelling out the money for the kit. When I get home from work, I'll post his email responses here.

A stupid question...if it is a "bedding" issue, can I do anything with the current pads, or are they garbage. I have maybe 5K miles on this brake system. I'll get rid of this setup before I live with this constant noise.
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Default Re: Wilwood Caliper Brake Noise

Like I said on facebook, Its gotta be the bedding.

I followed the bedding steps and I warped my rotors. I made sure not to drag them and no complete stops until they were totally cool. The rotors I had couldnt handle it.

Im not going to try this on my current set up. Im trying to let them break in on their own. When i get my squealing i do 1 hard stop and it goes away.
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Starting yesterday, my brakes are now constantly squealing from 25-30mph until I come to a complete stop. As soon as they warm up, it is constant. When they are cooled, they are fine. After a few minutes of driving, they squeal constantly when braking and the car slows to 25-30mph.

I contacted FastBrakes and he told me that he's been using these pads for a while and never had ANY noise issues. I told him that there are a handful of members here having this problem. He said that due to the design of the calipers that some noise could be expected. He also recommended installing the Wilwood pad shims. I've done a little google digging on the shims, and it seems that in some cases it cured the problem, and in other cases it made no difference whatsoever. It seems silly to have to spend another $22 for shims after shelling out the money for the kit. When I get home from work, I'll post his email responses here.
I agree. I dont want to buy shims after giving fastbrakes $650 for their kit which essentially includes $300 brackets. I found the caliper set on ebay for $350 but didnt want to risk making my own brackets so i just went with fastbrakes for piece of mind.

However, if it fixes the problem Its probably worth it.
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Starting yesterday, my brakes are now constantly squealing from 25-30mph until I come to a complete stop. As soon as they warm up, it is constant. When they are cooled, they are fine. After a few minutes of driving, they squeal constantly when braking and the car slows to 25-30mph.

I contacted FastBrakes and he told me that he's been using these pads for a while and never had ANY noise issues. I told him that there are a handful of members here having this problem. He said that due to the design of the calipers that some noise could be expected. He also recommended installing the Wilwood pad shims. I've done a little google digging on the shims, and it seems that in some cases it cured the problem, and in other cases it made no difference whatsoever. It seems silly to have to spend another $22 for shims after shelling out the money for the kit. When I get home from work, I'll post his email responses here.

A stupid question...if it is a "bedding" issue, can I do anything with the current pads, or are they garbage. I have maybe 5K miles on this brake system. I'll get rid of this setup before I live with this constant noise.
I bedded in mine couple times it seems to less but once I do hard braking it gets mad loud. Should we send him the video of how loud it is?
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I already sent him your video and he told me the same thing he told hawaii50. I've tried the shims before but they didn't help.
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I already sent him your video and he told me the same thing he told hawaii50. I've tried the shims before but they didn't help.
I just ordered the shims. When I get them, I'm going to flip the pads inside/outside and install the shims and see what happens.

What did you end up doing with yours?
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Default Re: Wilwood Caliper Brake Noise

I still haven't been able to solve the issue, I've tried 4 sets of brake pads and no help. I've tried Hawk HPS+, HPS twice and now wilwood BP-10, and all of them except the HPS+ which I toasted by tiring to inbed them, all squeal only on the passenger side. Ima save up my pennies in order to get the 13" 2 piece rotors.
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Old 05-10-2012, 03:42 PM   #25
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Default Re: Wilwood Caliper Brake Noise.

Originally Posted by hero782 View Post
I still haven't been able to solve the issue, I've tried 4 sets of brake pads and no help. I've tried Hawk HPS+, HPS twice and now wilwood BP-10, and all of them except the HPS+ which I toasted by tiring to inbed them, all squeal only on the passenger side. Ima save up my pennies in order to get the 13" 2 piece rotors.
A buddy of mine had squeal with Hawk pads on his Sentra (Wilwood brake upgrade) and he switched to EBC Green pads and said that the squeal went away. If the shims don't do it for me, I'm going to try the EBC pads. If that doesn't work, then this kit is going bye-bye...
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