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Old 07-28-2013, 03:58 PM   Thread Starter #1
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Default Should I Lower My 6thgen

I plan on investing a 20" setup up from my current 18s. Is it guaranteed that my ride will look too high? If so- should I be getting a lowering springs, coilovers or what?

Also, how effective are sway bars on a 6thgen? I know first hand the sway can be a little much.

Are there any 6thgen Maxima-specific reasons not to lower your car?

My goal is essentially to improve grounding / sway reduction / handling for the best price possible. I have no intentions for any track use, and I don't want to drop the car too much so that potholes and uneven road become a big problem.

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Wheels should make your car look "high" unless you'll be running 22's+.

Lowering your car is a good investment to improve handling, traction, etc, if your streets allow you to. Come neighborhoods have bad potholes, so not everyone will choose to lower their cars. If you are planning on lowering, my advice is not to waste money on springs/shocks/struts, save up and get coilovers. A used set can run you anywhere from $400-800, depending on brand.

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Wheels should make your car look "high" unless you'll be running 22's+.

Lowering your car is a good investment to improve handling, traction, etc, if your streets allow you to. Come neighborhoods have bad potholes, so not everyone will choose to lower their cars. If you are planning on lowering, my advice is not to waste money on springs/shocks/struts, save up and get coilovers. A used set can run you anywhere from $400-800, depending on brand.

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Wheels should make your car look "high" unless you'll be running 22's+.

Lowering your car is a good investment to improve handling, traction, etc, if your streets allow you to. Come neighborhoods have bad potholes, so not everyone will choose to lower their cars. If you are planning on lowering, my advice is not to waste money on springs/shocks/struts, save up and get coilovers. A used set can run you anywhere from $400-800, depending on brand.

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Why is it that you recommend coilovers rather than springs/shocks/struts?
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Why is it that you recommend coilovers rather than springs/shocks/struts?
For the ability to raise and lower at your convenience.

Although if you have a tight budget, springs are the way to go unless you wanna slam the car.

Springs will run you about $150 for the set. They usually lower the car about 1.5-2 inches in the front and .75-1 inch in the rear.
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For the ability to raise and lower at your convenience.

Although if you have a tight budget, springs are the way to go unless you wanna slam the car.

Springs will run you about $150 for the set. They usually lower the car about 1.5-2 inches in the front and .75-1 inch in the rear.
Slam the car?
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Slam the car?
Drop the car super low. Usually means dropping the car a good 6" or so.
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Drop the car super low. Usually means dropping the car a good 6" or so.
Ahh I see, yeah not the plan. Roads around here aren't that permitting. What coilovers do you suggest?
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Ahh I see, yeah not the plan. Roads around here aren't that permitting. What coilovers do you suggest?
Having coilovers doesn't mean you HAVE to slam your car. It gives you the ability to adjust the quality of ride (damper adjustment) and height as well, based in your own preference. You can raise it when you want, and lower it when you want. $500ish for used set plus $200ish install is a good investment that'll last you for years.
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just get air suspension

no in all seriousness if you have the money for it go for it, its the best investment i ever made on my z, other than that coilovers are the way to go...theyre so damn convenient
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should you lower your car? NO, I did it and tons of things started to go wrong.
1- 20-45 mph vibration(it is bound to happen if lowered)
2- harsher ride
3- more and more shit will start to rattle inside your car
4-alignment will not be at its best
5- you will put more pressure on the axles and the boots will tear faster
6- You will put more pressure on the engine mounts, because your axle shafts won't be working at the engineered angle(every geometry in the suspension and motor alignment changes)

be honest to your self(Not only OP, but whoever that looks for answers). Are you driving your car around track that you need less body roll? if no, then you don't need better handling than what you have
listen , the car will look better, but that's the only advantage you would get. After a year you will wish that you didn't lower it. Maximas handling is great at its stock mode. With lower stiffer suspension, your car will bounce off every bump on the road especially in higher speed turns which with stock it won't do it usually(unless you drive like a lunatic)

I regret lowering the car, and I'm almost on the verge selling it, because of the harshness and vibrations.
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I've had my BC's for about 3yrs and they still work the same when I first put them on. Ok true about the axles but that only happened coz I was too low. When I did the 6speed swap I never had that issue anymore coz of the MT axles. When I first put them on it was a 3' drop on my stock SL 17's way too low for our car's. I later got some staggered 19's and raised it about an 1 1/2 thus leveling the axles so they are straight and not pointing up. With 20's you should be good with BC's at all points coz what u want is to fill that gap between the finder and tire and to eliminate that high nose and rear sag look that our cars come with. I say go for the BC coils with the 20's and when you put them on from there you can decide your Max's stance. Personally I built my Max to perform so coming out of a 50mph turn @100 is pretty impressive and fun as f*#%! Our cars are ass heavy so with out being set up correctly can be catastrophic when you think your outhere wiping around and you think your car can handle this turn coming up untill you realize that the ass is about to do you dirty! But it all depends on how you like to drive. I have a love for circuit instead of strait forward drag so I set my Max up to perform like so and when I have time I like to rip the track and then hit the high way and see those who think they can get left behind.lol I'm not saying I'm the fastest tho but.......
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BC also offers different springs soft and stiff. If you find the ride to be a bit harsh you can go for the swift springs witch are designed for comfort.
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I've had my BC's for about 3yrs and they still work the same when I first put them on. Ok true about the axles but that only happened coz I was too low. When I did the 6speed swap I never had that issue anymore coz of the MT axles. When I first put them on it was a 3' drop on my stock SL 17's way too low for our car's. I later got some staggered 19's and raised it about an 1 1/2 thus leveling the axles so they are straight and not pointing up. With 20's you should be good with BC's at all points coz what u want is to fill that gap between the finder and tire and to eliminate that high nose and rear sag look that our cars come with. I say go for the BC coils with the 20's and when you put them on from there you can decide your Max's stance. Personally I built my Max to perform so coming out of a 50mph turn @100 is pretty impressive and fun as f*#%! Our cars are ass heavy so with out being set up correctly can be catastrophic when you think your outhere wiping around and you think your car can handle this turn coming up untill you realize that the ass is about to do you dirty! But it all depends on how you like to drive. I have a love for circuit instead of strait forward drag so I set my Max up to perform like so and when I have time I like to rip the track and then hit the high way and see those who think they can get left behind.lol I'm not saying I'm the fastest tho but.......

I absolutely don't have any clue what might been the difference between the manual and automatic trans out put shaft heights, but since you have done the swap, and it worked for you, I am very happy for you buddy. But gotta remember not everyone can afford spending 4-6 grand on a trans swap. Also there's a point that you mentioned , that I think needs correction, is the change of the diameter could change the geometry of the axles. Usually, if you want to change to bigger rims like from 17 to 20, you should reduce the profile of the tire to keep the overall diameter of the tire very close to the original stock size.(just to be clear, I didn't follow this rule and I'm paying the consequences. My tire's diameter are almost 4.5% bigger than the stock setup, which threw off my speedometer by 3MPH, There's another problem also that associates with this that I will explain at the end.) Anyway, once you chose the correct tire size, the relationship of the rim's center and the axle to the ground will not change. Now to the big issue of mine:

The bigger issue of a wrong speedometer, is that the car constantly monitors its speed and the revs of the engine and the trans output shaft and calculates the best and correct response to whatever you are doing with the gas pedal. So once the tire is larger than what is standard, The output shaft sensor reads less revs therefore the car can't response correctly to your input. My car right now suffers from lack of throttle response and also transmission delay in downshifts, because of the same reason. Mismatch between the engine revs and output shaft revs)

I admit it, I ruined my car's performance by lowering it, And once this term ends, I will return it to original height, because the vibration is so annoying after a long period that I almost sold the car the other day.
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I absolutely don't have any clue what might been the difference between the manual and automatic trans out put shaft heights, but since you have done the swap, and it worked for you, I am very happy for you buddy. But gotta remember not everyone can afford spending 4-6 grand on a trans swap. Also there's a point that you mentioned , that I think needs correction, is the change of the diameter could change the geometry of the axles. Usually, if you want to change to bigger rims like from 17 to 20, you should reduce the profile of the tire to keep the overall diameter of the tire very close to the original stock size.(just to be clear, I didn't follow this rule and I'm paying the consequences. My tire's diameter are almost 4.5% bigger than the stock setup, which threw off my speedometer by 3MPH, There's another problem also that associates with this that I will explain at the end.) Anyway, once you chose the correct tire size, the relationship of the rim's center and the axle to the ground will not change. Now to the big issue of mine:

The bigger issue of a wrong speedometer, is that the car constantly monitors its speed and the revs of the engine and the trans output shaft and calculates the best and correct response to whatever you are doing with the gas pedal. So once the tire is larger than what is standard, The output shaft sensor reads less revs therefore the car can't response correctly to your input. My car right now suffers from lack of throttle response and also transmission delay in downshifts, because of the same reason. Mismatch between the engine revs and output shaft revs)

I admit it, I ruined my car's performance by lowering it, And once this term ends, I will return it to original height, because the vibration is so annoying after a long period that I almost sold the car the other day.
Well you learned from the mistake. So what you running? A 50 series tire on a 20 inch rim with a drop!!!!lol ofcorse you gotta lower the tire profile but i didnt think to discuss that part of it considering the op would know about this or he would just simply ask. But i understand where your coming from tho.
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hhhh...not really, I run 245/40/20s, the car looks fantastic, but runs like a carriage and lowered on Eibachs in front...LOL
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To clear things if u go with a 20/8.5 all around you can put on a 235/40 or 35/20. Or 245/35/20. Now if you gonna staggered witch is the rear wheel and tire are wider than the front then a good set up for 20's is 235/35/20 F and 255/35 or 30/20 R depending on the rear wheel width. Im running 245/40/19 F 275/35/19 R but my rear wheel width is 10'. if it helps.
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Oh! one thing about doing this is you might have to shave or roll your rear wheel well inner lip theirs a thread on this.
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hhhh...not really, I run 245/40/20s, the car looks fantastic, but runs like a carriage and lowered on Eibachs in front...LOL
lmao! its all good bro. yeah those springs are actually more of a drop than they say witch is 2' but then you gotta think about the spring settle point. so your probably at a 2.3 drop on 20! thats gotta look sick!
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Good info guys.. Will mos def be getting those tein super street coilovers hopefully by the end of the summer..
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Drop the car super low. Usually means dropping the car a good 6" or so.
Would 1.75/1.75 coils cover the gaps between the wheels and the fender on the 08 maxima?
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Default Re: Should I Lower My 6thgen

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Drop the car super low. Usually means dropping the car a good 6" or so.
Would 1.75/1.75 coils cover the gaps between the wheels and the fender on the 08 maxima?
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Default Re: Should I Lower My 6thgen

Originally Posted by galex View Post
Would 1.75/1.75 coils cover the gaps between the wheels and the fender on the 08 maxima?
Definitely. Progress lowering springs are 1.8 in the front and .75 in the back and that eliminates the wheel gaps.
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