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Old 10-06-2011, 01:26 PM   Thread Starter #1
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Default Just Need To Get Rid Of The Front Wheel Gap!

Well I searched a lot the past few days just to make sure and see if someone has covered what I'm wanting.

My 06 SL suffers the same disease all Maximas and Altimas have. God only knows what mother Nissan was hittin on when they decided that this looked cool. You know that dreaded gap!!!

My goal is not to slam my ride to the ground. I'm probably older than a majority of you guys and gals and well life hasn't been so kind to my back. I need a car with a nice ride but God I need to get rid of the gap.

So here is my question and I fear I'm opening the door 300 different opinions. But what is the best way to get the gap gone and still have a nice ride? Is there a way I can buy just a set of front coils only?

Here's the really sad part,. I'm suffering this horrible blight times two in my driveway. Our 04 Altima 3.5 SE has caught the disease too!

I really don't mind having the front a little bit lower than the rear. Gives it a more aggressive look to me. I also swapped the crappy stocker wheels(17"s what were they thinking?) and went to an 18 with 254/40ZR18 rubber. I may end up putting these on the Altima if I find a nice set of 19"s instead.

I do have access to a bunch of NEW stuff that is for a G-35 such as a set of Eibach 2" lowering springs, Rear sway bar, cross drilled rotors, struts-shocks and a rear roof spoiler. It's all real cheap prices but don't know if even one thing would fit. My luck it probably doesn't.

So what do you all think?
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Well if you have been searching here, you may have seen that people generally go with lowering springs. Everyone has their favorites and their reasons why.

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I have Progress right now. I switched from the Eibachs. I found the ride to be very rough and I also had a lot of strange noises coming from them. I switched to Progress and couldn't be happier.

BTW, I don't think those parts will fit. Go to Eibachs website and put in both cars and see if the part numbers are the same...I doubt it though.
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If you just want to lower the car with as close to a stock ride as possible, Progress springs on stock struts and shocks would probably be good for you. If your stock struts and shocks have a fair amount of mileage on them, you may want to switch them out to KYB's.

This is on Progress springs and stock struts and shocks with OEM wheels and tires. The front drop still leaves a bit to desire, but it may or may not be enough for you.
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If you just want to lower the car with as close to a stock ride as possible, Progress springs on stock struts and shocks would probably be good for you. If your stock struts and shocks have a fair amount of mileage on them, you may want to switch them out to KYB's.

This is on Progress springs and stock struts and shocks with OEM wheels and tires. The front drop still leaves a bit to desire, but it may or may not be enough for you.
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If you just want to lower the car with as close to a stock ride as possible, Progress springs on stock struts and shocks would probably be good for you. If your stock struts and shocks have a fair amount of mileage on them, you may want to switch them out to KYB's.

This is on Progress springs and stock struts and shocks with OEM wheels and tires. The front drop still leaves a bit to desire, but it may or may not be enough for you.
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That look is much better over what I have right now. Amazing that is a 2" drop!

It should have bee like that from the factory and then one could go from there.

Are those 18"s you have in the top and 20"s in your sig pic? If so I may want to look for a set of 20's instead. If I did the 2" in front would there be any issues with rubbing with a 20 under there?
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That look is much better over what I have right now. Amazing that is a 2" drop!

It should have bee like that from the factory and then one could go from there.

Are those 18"s you have in the top and 20"s in your sig pic? If so I may want to look for a set of 20's instead. If I did the 2" in front would there be any issues with rubbing with a 20 under there?
I use a 245 35 20 with no rubbing at all.
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That look is much better over what I have right now. Amazing that is a 2" drop!

It should have bee like that from the factory and then one could go from there.

Are those 18"s you have in the top and 20"s in your sig pic? If so I may want to look for a set of 20's instead. If I did the 2" in front would there be any issues with rubbing with a 20 under there?
You wont have rubbing issues if you get the right tire size 245/35 or 30/ 20
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Well if you have been searching here, you may have seen that people generally go with lowering springs. Everyone has their favorites and their reasons why.

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I like the way your Max sits. Is that a 2" front and rear drop? Looks like the front is a little lower. That's more the look I'm going for but it has to ride smooth.
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It is a little lower in the front. I switch from Progress to Tein S-Tech springs. I felt the ride was too rough on Progress, but others disagree. It was just my experience.

Here is the data I have on springs:

Eibach---------- 2" front, .8" rear
Progress-------- 1.8" front, .75" rear
Tein S-Tech ----1.6” Front, .5” Rear/Spring Rate: F(196 lbs), R(302 lbs)
H&R-------------1.4" front, 1.3" rear.
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Canuck Motorsport (CM)-----1.75" front, 1" rear also see 1.6” front and .9” rear
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I guess the only way springs can be bought is in a full set of 4?
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I guess the only way springs can be bought is in a full set of 4?
Thats the only way you should do it. All four at one time.
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Im running Eibachs with factory struts and shocks with 20s. I love my ride and the stance is cool with me without having to buy coils.

No matter what route you take do everything as a set, do NOT mix springs. I have heard and seen the problems it can cause and its not worth losing your life to look "cool".
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Question now is which of the two do I do first? It's only money!!!!
Looks like both cars use the same.
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id get the progress springs with the KYB's. also, do NOT install just the fronts. that will cause an unsafe ride and it will also make the ride feel weird.
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Teins! ride great you will like them dude...
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Well I got a smokin deal on a set of 20"s with almost brand new tires.

The rims are VOXX ANCONA 20"x9.5(not sure of the offset) they have a set of Triangle 245/35ZR/20

They are a perfect offset and the stance is awesome and no rubbing when I turn the wheels.

Here is a pic of what they look like(Pic is of the Lexus they came off of)

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I threw the on the Altima since I was actually looking for some rims for it. I have a set of chrome 18" Panthers on the Max already. It's gonna be a biatch trying to convince the wife to let me stick the 20's on the Max


What I'm not quite getting is why is so dangerous to lower just the front to even out the look? I've had dozens of cars, trucks and bikes that I've lowered and many including all of my old 60's-70's Mustangs had a little bit of a rake to them. If you get the front end alinement done it shouldn't be dangerous. Oh and guys I don't race or carve up the twisties in a fierce rage! If i get a wild hair to do that I jump on my bike!

The Max is the family car that I have my two teenage daughters and sometimes a friend of theirs in the back set. It's not uncommon to do a road trip with the whole fam and when you travel with three women they don't pack light!!!

I just can't have any rubbing going on anywhere on the car. I've pretty much out grown my days of slammed vehicles. I gotta have as nice a ride as I can. After Uncle Sam done did me in on my back after 6 years active duty and 2 reserve, plus surviving stage-4 cancer in my throat and neck, my neck and back have had enough!!
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Dude your Max looks sweet...love the wheels (on your sig)!!
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That look is much better over what I have right now. Amazing that is a 2" drop!

It should have bee like that from the factory and then one could go from there.

Are those 18"s you have in the top and 20"s in your sig pic? If so I may want to look for a set of 20's instead. If I did the 2" in front would there be any issues with rubbing with a 20 under there?
I agree, the Maxima should have been very close to this height from the factory, the wheel gap is ridiculous. Yes, those are the OEM 18x8's in the picture I posted with the Progress springs/KYB struts and shocks, and my sig is 20x10.5's with BC Racing coilovers. As long as you get the correct wheel offset and tire sizes, you shouldn't have any rubbing issues.

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Well I got a smokin deal on a set of 20"s with almost brand new tires.

The rims are VOXX ANCONA 20"x9.5(not sure of the offset) they have a set of Triangle 245/35ZR/20

They are a perfect offset and the stance is awesome and no rubbing when I turn the wheels.

Here is a pic of what they look like(Pic is of the Lexus they came off of)

http://www.voxxwheel.com/eng/wheels/...yles-3/ancona/

Hopefully this upload works.

I threw the on the Altima since I was actually looking for some rims for it. I have a set of chrome 18" Panthers on the Max already. It's gonna be a biatch trying to convince the wife to let me stick the 20's on the Max


What I'm not quite getting is why is so dangerous to lower just the front to even out the look? I've had dozens of cars, trucks and bikes that I've lowered and many including all of my old 60's-70's Mustangs had a little bit of a rake to them. If you get the front end alinement done it shouldn't be dangerous. Oh and guys I don't race or carve up the twisties in a fierce rage! If i get a wild hair to do that I jump on my bike!

The Max is the family car that I have my two teenage daughters and sometimes a friend of theirs in the back set. It's not uncommon to do a road trip with the whole fam and when you travel with three women they don't pack light!!!

I just can't have any rubbing going on anywhere on the car. I've pretty much out grown my days of slammed vehicles. I gotta have as nice a ride as I can. After Uncle Sam done did me in on my back after 6 years active duty and 2 reserve, plus surviving stage-4 cancer in my throat and neck, my neck and back have had enough!!
245/35's for a 9.5" are a little narrow, but if you don't mind it then they are fine. The reason just lowering the front is bad is because it's not just the height of the spring that's different, the spring rate is as well. I can't necessarily say it's "bad" because I don't know what the spring rate difference is between aftermarket and OEM springs, but if they are off by a big margin then that can present problems. The rear lowering springs don't lower as much as the front, so you don't have to worry about the rear being too low. If it is too low for you, then you can add a spring spacer to raise it up a tad.
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That's one of the reasons I went with Teins, only a .5" rear drop.

My wheels are pretty much stock 18x8s. I've had a trunk full of luggage, the Mrs, and 3 teenage boys on for a road trip. Never any rubbing.

Mine is still the "grocery getter" too.
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I thought I heard that stiffens up the ride, is that true?
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I thought I heard that stiffens up the ride, is that true?
It depends on the brand you use. Teins are stiffer and far more stable than KSports. If you want a softer, bouncy ride, then get KSports. D2s are good from what I hear, but I haven't been in a car that has them installed. I've only tried KSports and Teins personally, and I prefer Teins over any brand.

If you want to adjust the stiffness of your ride, then get the Tein SS Coilovers that can allow you to do so. BUT, keep in mind that you'll go through hell trying to adjust the rear shocks with ANY brand... Unless you buy the extra equipment ($300-350) with Tein SS that can let you adjust them remotely.
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Old 10-12-2011, 12:37 AM   #23
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Default Re: Just Need To Get Rid Of The Front Wheel Gap!

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It depends on the brand you use. Teins are stiffer and far more stable than KSports. If you want a softer, bouncy ride, then get KSports. D2s are good from what I hear, but I haven't been in a car that has them installed. I've only tried KSports and Teins personally, and I prefer Teins over any brand.

If you want to adjust the stiffness of your ride, then get the Tein SS Coilovers that can allow you to do so. BUT, keep in mind that you'll go through hell trying to adjust the rear shocks with ANY brand... Unless you buy the extra equipment ($300-350) with Tein SS that can let you adjust them remotely.
BC Racing coilovers have separate shocks and springs in the rear, possibly to make it easier to adjust the shock damping. The adjustment knob is on the side close to the shock mount, so all I need to do is lift the rear and reach into the top of the wheel well.

But that is besides the point. I don't think coilovers will be good for the OP, he doesn't need adjustable height. The only benefit would be adjustable damping, but I don't think the benifits outweigh the cost in his case, he'll be fine with lowering springs and KYB's or OEM's. Either way he goes, he should definitely stay away from pillowball mounts, they drastically reduce ride quality over bumps since the mounts no longer absorb energy.
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Are these 20x10 all around with 38 offset dude?
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Are these 20x10 all around with 38 offset dude?
Yes and no.

Yes, 20x10 all around

No, the offset is +35
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