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Old 03-29-2011, 01:35 PM   Thread Starter #1
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Default Eibach Springs Too Low In The Rear Causing Tire Rub

hey guys, i have a problem and need some advice. Way back when i bought my car the previous owner already have Eibach lowering springs and 20inch wheels/tires. i just noticed that the left rear tire on the 20's is severely messed up, on the inner lip of the tire, it has a 1/2" groove ground into it. I can't believe this has been happening and i didn't notice. i rotate my tires every 10k and never noticed this before. Anyways i don't know if this has been happening for the past two years and i'm just now noticing or if it just started. The tire is completely trashed, it has a huge "crease" in it now about a 1/2" deep where it was rubbing on something inside the wheel well. I wish i would have taken pictures of it before getting rid of the tires but i didn't.

What are my options here? Could i have a bad rear strut? When i'm driving i can't hear any rubbing or feel anything out of the ordinary. I can't afford to ruin another set of tires, not to mention how dangerous it is since it caused a huge crease to be worn into the tire.

I'm wondering, since i don't feel i have a bad strut at only 60k miles on the odometer, could i just install a set of factory rear springs but leave the front ones alone? The back sits lower than the front anyways so it probably would look normal raising the back up an inch or two.

anyone ever had this problem before?
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Try rolling your fenders... It could happen when you put people or groceries in the back... I said it could be...before people say I am wrong... Lol
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Old 03-29-2011, 02:20 PM   Thread Starter #3
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its on the inside of the tire, nearest the strut, not the outside, nearest the fender. rolling the fender wont do any good in this situation.
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Check for any heavy hidden girls in the back.


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Check for any heavy hidden girls in the back.


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Default Re: Eibach Springs Too Low In The Rear Causing Tire Rub

I posted a response to this on the org as wellbut your best bet is to have the car on a lift where it is sitting on the tires and look under it then for anything near the tire. Also as random as it seems you could have run over something that lodged in the rear somewhere and rubbed agaisnt it but finally came out. Semi tires and stuff like that. Any signs of wear on the new tires?
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Can you get some pics by any chance? It will be easier to see the probable cause.
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There r a few members who have just front aftermarket springs and stock rear springs...

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Yeah but it certainly isn't the best situation to use. Different spring rates can cause different responses in unnormal circumstances that should be avoided when possible.
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I posted a response to this on the org as wellbut your best bet is to have the car on a lift where it is sitting on the tires and look under it then for anything near the tire. Also as random as it seems you could have run over something that lodged in the rear somewhere and rubbed agaisnt it but finally came out. Semi tires and stuff like that. Any signs of wear on the new tires?
just went out and checked, its almost impossible to tell with the car on the ground, i can't see in the inner fender well enough, or even fit my hand in there to feel and i can't fit under the car either. I"m gonna have to jack up the front and crawl under, long ways, to the back to see what if anything it could be hitting.

i just went for a quick spin, and i realized something that i had not noticed until just now. i think the rubbing only occurs when a bump in the road bottoms out the rear end, which in my car is rather easy with the big wheels and lowering springs. i just still need to figure, what exactly its hitting or bottoming out on.

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Can you get some pics by any chance? It will be easier to see the probable cause.
I will do my best Eddy - i'm a visual guy myself so i know that pics are worth a thousand words.

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well, that is helpful and comforting to know that a possible fix is to just go back to stock rear springs.
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Old 03-29-2011, 02:42 PM   Thread Starter #11
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Yeah but it certainly isn't the best situation to use. Different spring rates can cause different responses in unnormal circumstances that should be avoided when possible.
I agree, i'm not sure what to do yet, gotta diagnose the exact problem first. i'd prefer not to run two different springs but it should not be that big of a deal.

I look at it like this....in a pickup truck, the front is usually torsion bars or coil springs/shocks and the rear is almost always leaf springs. the spring rate would almost have to be different from front to rear.
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Actually need more info before I can give you any advice...

Wheel size? (i.e. 20x9, 20x10, etc)

Offset of the wheel?

This is VERY important when having wheels. Sometimes few mm off in offset measurement can have severe rubbing and evantually a blow out.

Have you had an alignment to the rear wheels?

Have you checked inner fender liner to see if it has rubbing marks?

Do you normally carry passengers on one side of the car?

From experience, having the inner side of the wheel rubbing, and only on the left side of the car, can only easily say that it's an alignment issue. So many factors could trigger the rubbing and/or uneven tire wear.

I'd check your suspension components like endlinks, springs, height of the car on both sides, etc.

Again, pics can help a lot in determining the visual aspect of the situation.
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Actually need more info before I can give you any advice...

Wheel size? (i.e. 20x9, 20x10, etc)

Offset of the wheel?

This is VERY important when having wheels. Sometimes few mm off in offset measurement can have severe rubbing and evantually a blow out.

Have you had an alignment to the rear wheels?

Have you checked inner fender liner to see if it has rubbing marks?

Do you normally carry passengers on one side of the car?

From experience, having the inner side of the wheel rubbing, and only on the left side of the car, can only easily say that it's an alignment issue. So many factors could trigger the rubbing and/or uneven tire wear.

I'd check your suspension components like endlinks, springs, height of the car on both sides, etc.

Again, pics can help a lot in determining the visual aspect of the situation.
To be honest, i don't know any information on the wheels, not even the make/model. The guy i bought the car from included them in the sale.

I did just recently have a 4 wheel alignment done at the local Nissan dealership. They did note that the rear was still ever so slightly out of spec due to the lowering springs and they did their best but could not get it to 100% perfect alignment. I knew this going into it but was fine with them getting it as close as they could.
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To be honest, i don't know any information on the wheels, not even the make/model. The guy i bought the car from included them in the sale.

I did just recently have a 4 wheel alignment done at the local Nissan dealership. They did note that the rear was still ever so slightly out of spec due to the lowering springs and they did their best but could not get it to 100% perfect alignment. I knew this going into it but was fine with them getting it as close as they could.
Ok, take as many pics as you can, and we'll deermine what kind of wheels they are. I'm sure we'll find the info online.

I'd still check your suspension components to make sure everything is fine.
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As Rani said, offset was my first thought too. At least post pics of the wheel and we might be able to identify them....

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Did u ever find out the problem??? To ur rubbing... I bought ky car with each springs too....and a year later I realize that the back is lower than when I bought it...
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If its not an offset issue, I'm thinking a blown strut is the issue.
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Get spring lifters. You can raise spring 1/16-2in. End of story buy them an put them on!
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Judging by what you say, sounds like you have a high offset and wrong tire size or both. Might even have a bad strut or bad coil on that side. I had Eibach and 20s and even progress and 20s and didn't rub. Even before I rolled the lip, I didn't rub.
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Here are some pics of the wheels and tires. I was not able to get pics or crawl under the car last night, it was too dark when i got home from work. I will have to wait until sat and take it to my buddy's garage to look at it.

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