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Old 11-02-2010, 01:51 AM   Thread Starter #1
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Hey guys, the issue im having is that i have to pull up the ebrake handle real high for the car to stop rolling back, even then when its pulled up, it rolls back a bit the stops. ive tightened the 10mm nut a couple of times but it seems i have to pull it up too much than needed.
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Maybe it's time for new brake pads and bleed.
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Is there a car that needs replacing?

EDIT: Damn phone. That should be cable, not car...
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Were the rear shoes ever replaced? Check the star adjuster in the rear drum, U can adjust it threw that round black gromet on ur rotor.
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Default Re: E-Brake too soft

Originally Posted by Raz76 View Post
Maybe it's time for new brake pads and bleed.
I just did this on my Z and noticed the Ebrake felt better.
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I just did this on my Z and noticed the Ebrake felt better.
Even though rear brakes don't need to be changed as often as the front, you still have to sometime. A good indication of that is usually when the E-Brake gets soft, don't mess with teh adjusting screw inside because now when you install new pads, it will be very tight and possibly drag. It's alaways good idea to check rear when doing the front.
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The parking/ebrake pads are separate than the pads that stop the car with the brake peddle. There is a drum style brake inside the rear rotor's. The adjustment gear is accessible by removing the rubber grommet then positioning the hole at the 12 o'clock position. Use a flat tip screw driver to move the adjustment gear until you can spin the rotor and it barely catches then back it off a couple of clicks.
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The parking/ebrake pads are separate than the pads that stop the car with the brake peddle. There is a drum style brake inside the rear rotor's. The adjustment gear is accessible by removing the rubber grommet then positioning the hole at the 12 o'clock position. Use a flat tip screw driver to move the adjustment gear until you can spin the rotor and it barely catches then back it off a couple of clicks.
You are correct, Im thinking of drum style only, I've had Mitsubishi too long.lol.
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Default Re: E-Brake too soft

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Maybe it's time for new brake pads and bleed.
I believe around Aug 09 I replaced everything, rotors (rotorpros), pads (hawk hps), & ss brake lines(technafit) and bled it with valvoline synthetic brake fluid. for some reason, the braking has never been the same as stock (stock felt stiffer even when the pads were worn down). ive manual bled each caliper and i saw no air bubbles.

on another note, i put an oem brake line back as the ss line was leaking between the ss braid and the plastic cover.
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The parking/ebrake pads are separate than the pads that stop the car with the brake peddle. There is a drum style brake inside the rear rotor's. The adjustment gear is accessible by removing the rubber grommet then positioning the hole at the 12 o'clock position. Use a flat tip screw driver to move the adjustment gear until you can spin the rotor and it barely catches then back it off a couple of clicks.
you wouldnt have a pic off hand would you? i understand what your saying but would like to get a visual before i take it all apart. i have pix of when i did the brake job but i they're on my home pc.
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you wouldnt have a pic off hand would you? i understand what your saying but would like to get a visual before i take it all apart. i have pix of when i did the brake job but i they're on my home pc.
I had just explain this over the phone with Kenji.

if you have the wheels off in the rear,

You will see on the rotors where the studs are, you will see a black rubber that you can pop out,

if you turn the rotor with the rubber to 12 o clock, you can stick a flat head screw driver and adjust the ebrake from there.

Unless your planning to change the shoes inside the drum than this doesnt apply since your pulling everything off already.
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NiZMo1o1, i got u, i recall there was an extra hole for the rear solid rotors to but in that black grommet. so how is the adjustment done properly? take off the grommet on both sides and turn it a certain amount? what im curious is how do you adjust it evenly on both sides?

on another note, so the adjustments ive been doing on the actual ebrake not a permanent fix or more for fine tuning? ive noticed when ive adjusted it, it stays lower for a while but then it'll eventually go back to what its at now, pretty high.
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Default Re: E-Brake Too Soft

Nizmo pretty much explained it right. At 12 o'clock, if u look into the hole u will c what looks like crank teeth. Use a flat head n tighten it to where its snug on the drum then loosen it so that the rotor can free spin without having pressure. If ur too tight u will heat up the rotor n burn the shoes.
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Nizmo pretty much explained it right. At 12 o'clock, if u look into the hole u will c what looks like crank teeth. Use a flat head n tighten it to where its snug on the drum then loosen it so that the rotor can free spin without having pressure. If ur too tight u will heat up the rotor n burn the shoes.

Well, i know who i am seeing if i have this problem, lol
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understood mr dolla. so my next assumption is that that nut in the ebrake is for fine tuning where you want the engagement point?

also, if you do crank it slowly but did one too many clicks, can you dial back a click? if so how?

i figure i might as well ask all the possibilities before i start this, lol.

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U gotta spin the rotor/drum as u tighten to get a feel for it. As soon as u feel it snug jus dial back as u say. To dial back jus go the opposite way. Ur either goin up or down to loosen/tighten.
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kk, i just wanted to make sure it was like that and not like one of those crank type gears that go one way and to do the opposite is a PITA.

and for my other q about the ebrake, is that for fine tuning or is there a proper way to adjust that as well?

thank you for all your advise, im hopin to get this shit done on sun, its startin to get chill outside :P
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DAlastDON, thank you very much for your help & advice. i did this this afternoon and i set my e brake to engage at 4-5 clicks! the biggest bitch was that i had to find my key to take off the 15mm hubcentric spacers. when i first started to do it, it felt like it just kept turning and turning so i got up out of curiosity and pulled the ebrake and noticed it was becoming a shorter pull. so what i ended up doing was cranking it all the way (no force) til it stopped and then dialed back like a 1/2 turn and i was golden!
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I gotta do this myself cuz my ebrake goes almost all the way up, it's an 06, so I should check the shoe, but for now it's all good.
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Just though to continue this tread, as i tried the above steps and it did not worked for me. Does the hand brake and rear brakes have two different pads, i mean all together 4 pads on each rear wheel? Because now i think that may be brake pads for e-brakes are gone. By the way rear brake pads are almost new, so i think there will be another set of pads inside the rotor drum, which may needs to be replaced. Because when i tight the crank then wheel stop rotating, it gets too tough to rotate, but the feel of the hand brake lever is still the same, very soft and easy to pull.
Another problem i noticed with my brake system, when i rotate the drum by hand, then it rotates smoothly on 1/2 of the circle and second half it gets tight, it seems something is uneven, but surface looks very smooth.
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Just though to continue this tread, as i tried the above steps and it did not worked for me. Does the hand brake and rear brakes have two different pads, i mean all together 4 pads on each rear wheel? Because now i think that may be brake pads for e-brakes are gone. By the way rear brake pads are almost new, so i think there will be another set of pads inside the rotor drum, which may needs to be replaced. Because when i tight the crank then wheel stop rotating, it gets too tough to rotate, but the feel of the hand brake lever is still the same, very soft and easy to pull.
Another problem i noticed with my brake system, when i rotate the drum by hand, then it rotates smoothly on 1/2 of the circle and second half it gets tight, it seems something is uneven, but surface looks very smooth.
You are correct about the second set of pads for the parking brake. Their inside the rear rotors. Dunno about replacement pads. From what i understand they are supposed to last the lifetime of the car. That is of-course as long as the parking brake is not used to slow the car in any way except in an emergency situation where the main brakes have failed. Otherwise they will wear fairly quickly since they were not intended to stop the car but hold it at rest.
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