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Old 01-07-2015, 03:54 PM   Thread Starter #1
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Default C1101 Code thru OBDII for the ABS?

So the mechanic called me during my inspection about the idiot lights, and I had him do a preliminary diagnosis of the wheel sensors, and they all read the right resistance- but the ABS, TCS, and SLIP lights are on. Says it could be a short in the wiring, OR a new ABS Module (!) Has anyone dealt with this issue on the 6 Gens? The ABS Module is about $1300 new from the stealership. If theres anything you guys have learned, I'd love to know.
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Default Re: C1101 Code thru OBDII for the ABS?

If this is the issue , the abs module could be had at either RockAuto , Amazon , eBay , Courtesy Nissan Parts ( did business with them , top service ) .
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Default Re: C1101 Code thru OBDII for the ABS?

The challenge is the troubleshooting. I have a wiring diagram and plan to check for continuity from the ABS to the RR sensor, since thats the code that trips (C1101), and look for the "possible short".
Then, following the advice of the TSB, clean out the hub, since according to information my buddy found on another forum, the 6 gens are famous for corrosion there.
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Default Re: C1101 Code thru OBDII for the ABS?

Yep , same for my SER Altima , which is as basically the same mechanics as the 6th gen max .

Is that ok now ! Just don t forget to put on some dielctric grease on the connections while at it .
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Default Re: C1101 Code thru OBDII for the ABS?

I've had this same problem, well I'm still dealing with it. I followed the TSB from nissan brought new ABS sensor,brought new hub cleaned everything up. The problem didn't go away I need the module now. Not recommending you do this, but I un hooked my main sensor for the ABS to get it out of limp mode. Just don't have the $1300 rite now.
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Default Re: C1101 Code thru OBDII for the ABS?

Wonder if you take off the abs fuse if the speedometer will still work out .
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Default Re: C1101 Code thru OBDII for the ABS?

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Wonder if you take off the abs fuse if the speedometer will still work out .
I've tried that as well, Speedo didn't work. I think just un hooking the main ABS sensor.
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Originally Posted by MAnNy07 View Post
I've tried that as well, Speedo didn't work. I think just un hooking the main ABS sensor.
Gee that sux , it was in my plans to remove that abs fuse . They found a good way to screw us on that one ! lol

Someone should find a way to cheat on the rear abs system as they do on the o2 sensors with headers ! lol
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Default Re: C1101 Code thru OBDII for the ABS?

I put her on the lift, pulled the parking brakes, and the hub, to find a bunch of dirt and filings inside the space between the hub ring and plastic cap where the sensor takes its reading. I cleaned it out, including the small void at the bottom that seems to be there to catch it all, then cleaned the sensor, and blew it all off with compressed air to both dry it, and ensure all of the dirt was out. When i hooked the reader up, the LH RR code was gone, but the RH RR code was still there.
I'm putting her back on the lift tonight to check the continuity of the sensor. A quick check on AutoZone shows an image of the sensor, with the famous connector plug found throughout our cars. If I dont get continuity, theres a short, and i need a new sensor. Because the sensor is basically a magnet, I should see some resistance, but I dont know what that OHM reading should be. Anyone?
The part is $116, and I wonder if it makes sense to replace it- tho i could check the fronts, and use their average as a baseline...
There are companies that rebuild the ABS modules for a fraction of the cost of a new one, but I'm not there yet. If the module has to come out, you lose your AC, and will need it recharged.
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Originally Posted by MAnNy07 View Post
I've had this same problem, well I'm still dealing with it. I followed the TSB from nissan brought new ABS sensor,brought new hub cleaned everything up. The problem didn't go away I need the module now. Not recommending you do this, but I un hooked my main sensor for the ABS to get it out of limp mode. Just don't have the $1300 rite now.
So you took the sensor out? Is it giving you any problems because you it took out? I have the same problem here
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I've tried that as well, Speedo didn't work. I think just un hooking the main ABS sensor.
Where is the main abs sensor located?
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Default Re: C1101 Code thru OBDII for the ABS?

Hold on a minute! lol. Before we go replacing $1300 ABS modules, or disconnecting them (at best) to get them rebuilt, it may be the Active Wheel Speed Sensors.

At $145-$110 a piece, being a "parts-changing mechanic" is an expensive proposition as well. The mechannics don't know- unless you go to the Stealership, where they have the special tester, and harnesses, and fork over their hourly rate- the local mechanics just keep replacing parts until you say "uncle!". Even then, you're gonna need to tell them about TSB Ref#NTB02-120d.

I've done some research. Because I own two Maxima's, I am considering shelling out the coin for this: J-45741-BOX Checker, and J-45741-4 (front and rear RH side), J-4571-6 (front and rear LH side) harnesses. Google them, or go to handsontools.com and search. Everything is made by Kent-Tools, and is deemed by Nissan, a required "essential" tool for dealerships. All totaled, it's $225.61 and you can test all 4 sensors.

You CANNOT test the sensors with an OHMmeter. Won't happen. The sensors require an input signal voltage, and I don't know if backprobing them with the key on, would 1.) give you an intelligent reading, and 2.) create additional resistance (the ohm meter) giving you a faulty reading.

Bottom line is this: We either get the tool, and test ourselves, OR take it to the Dealership for them to test, OR just start replacing parts beginning with the Hub assembly...
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Where is the main abs sensor located?
on the firewall, under and behind a ton of stuff... can you say "last resort"?
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So you took the sensor out? Is it giving you any problems because you it took out? I have the same problem here
No, no problems by me un hooking that sensor allows the car not to have that hesitation when you first start the car and take off. Are you experiencing that, then all three lights come on? You don't take the sensor out, you just unconnected.

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Where is the main abs sensor located?
It sits on top of the passenger side right motor mount, next to timing chain cover gray male and female clip.

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Hold on a minute! lol. Before we go replacing $1300 ABS modules, or disconnecting them (at best) to get them rebuilt, it may be the Active Wheel Speed Sensors.

At $145-$110 a piece, being a "parts-changing mechanic" is an expensive proposition as well. The mechannics don't know- unless you go to the Stealership, where they have the special tester, and harnesses, and fork over their hourly rate- the local mechanics just keep replacing parts until you say "uncle!". Even then, you're gonna need to tell them about TSB Ref#NTB02-120d.

I've done some research. Because I own two Maxima's, I am considering shelling out the coin for this: J-45741-BOX Checker, and J-45741-4 (front and rear RH side), J-4571-6 (front and rear LH side) harnesses. Google them, or go to handsontools.com and search. Everything is made by Kent-Tools, and is deemed by Nissan, a required "essential" tool for dealerships. All totaled, it's $225.61 and you can test all 4 sensors.

You CANNOT test the sensors with an OHMmeter. Won't happen. The sensors require an input signal voltage, and I don't know if backprobing them with the key on, would 1.) give you an intelligent reading, and 2.) create additional resistance (the ohm meter) giving you a faulty reading.

Bottom line is this: We either get the tool, and test ourselves, OR take it to the Dealership for them to test, OR just start replacing parts beginning with the Hub assembly...
The sensors aren't cheap either, I paid $165 for the (RR) that's one one sensor. The hub was 130. But rockauto has cheaper prices, I didn't know about rockauto then.
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The sensors aren't cheap either, I paid $165 for the (RR) that's one one sensor. The hub was 130. But rockauto has cheaper prices, I didn't know about rockauto then.
In my area, the RR is $145, the LR is $110, and Hubs are $55, at O'Reilly Auto Parts, and RockAuto for $97 each sensor, both sides. Factor in $10 to ship. The cheapest hub is about $45 without shipping. Completely OFF the point of the thread, but ok.
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So I purchased the dealer tool, with both F and R harnesses. Two companies carry it; handsontools.com, and Tech-Mate 800-662-2001.

The price thru Tech-Mate was less than the handsontools website. All totaled, $159 for the BOX and harnesses ($15 shipping). Less than the $225.61 originally quoted. I should receive it within 5 days.

Rather than replacing sensors willy-nilly, this tool will pick out the bad ones.
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No, no problems by me un hooking that sensor allows the car not to have that hesitation when you first start the car and take off. Are you experiencing that, then all three lights come on? You don't take the sensor out, you just unconnected.



It sits on top of the passenger side right motor mount, next to timing chain cover gray male and female clip.
Ah ok. No, mine just does the humming noise 10-20 seconds after I start driving it, then goes away but the Abs light stays on. No problems braking though.
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Ah ok. No, mine just does the humming noise 10-20 seconds after I start driving it, then goes away but the Abs light stays on. No problems braking though.
When mine first started my brake pedal would pulsate, and make this horrible grinding noise
I thought my pedal was gonna give out. After that when I would turn the car on I would hear the ABS motor humming then go off. But when I put the car in drive and take off it would hesitate going into some limp mode.

After limp mode, the car would drive regular. I've heard with those lights on the the ABS module/motor would be damaged more, I don't know how true that is. Good luck tho sammy hope you find a solution!
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Sub d for future refs .
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When mine first started my brake pedal would pulsate, and make this horrible grinding noise
I thought my pedal was gonna give out. After that when I would turn the car on I would hear the ABS motor humming then go off. But when I put the car in drive and take off it would hesitate going into some limp mode.

After limp mode, the car would drive regular. I've heard with those lights on the the ABS module/motor would be damaged more, I don't know how true that is. Good luck tho sammy hope you find a solution!
With so many ABS problems, it's no wonder this site is rife with dead-end threads. If I find a thread that has to do with a challenge I'm having, I comment- if it's unrelated, I move on.

Just because the title has "ABS" does NOT mean it's related. I attempted to create a thread for future reference, and chronicle my progress. Instead, other issues UNRELATED to the thread, were introduced. FCOL, if you have something to contribute, do so, but if it's OFF topic, move on until you find someone talking about what you're talking about. This is a DEAD THREAD now. Peace out.
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With so many ABS problems, it's no wonder this site is rife with dead-end threads. If I find a thread that has to do with a challenge I'm having, I comment- if it's unrelated, I move on.

Just because the title has "ABS" does NOT mean it's related. I attempted to create a thread for future reference, and chronicle my progress. Instead, other issues UNRELATED to the thread, were introduced. FCOL, if you have something to contribute, do so, but if it's OFF topic, move on until you find someone talking about what you're talking about. This is a DEAD THREAD now. Peace out.
WOW..... you really need to calm down ranting like a little kid. What more do you need to know about the abs? This thread has been up while now obviously people don't have a lot info on this, if their it's very little theirs two ways of dealing with this, replace sensor and hub clean up everything or new abs module or actuator whatever it's called. Some users gave their opinions on it, and you call it "thread jacking" what a joke!!
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Default Re: C1101 Code thru OBDII for the ABS?

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WOW..... you really need to calm down ranting like a little kid. What more do you need to know about the abs? This thread has been up while now obviously people don't have a lot info on this, if their it's very little theirs two ways of dealing with this, replace sensor and hub clean up everything or new abs module or actuator whatever it's called. Some users gave their opinions on it, and you call it "thread jacking" what a joke!!
05BlkMax, you're a typical illiterate forum type. You missed the point of having actual research and diagnostics, and ran head-long into name-calling using unintelligible grammar. Thanks for your contribution.
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05BlkMax, you're a typical illiterate forum type. You missed the point of having actual research and diagnostics, and ran head-long into name-calling using unintelligible grammar. Thanks for your contribution.
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Nazi grammar here , rarely see it in this forum , it s not a grammar forum . Some might have iPhones or stuff like that with auto fill &/or autocorrect features that can t do much about .

By the way , if you don t want any thread hijacking or whatsoever , don t post anymore mate in any forums.

You have to get over this .

You seem to have some great knowledge & research knowhow which can be usefull to you & the other members , but please calm down , we all have our bad day(s) but we try not to show in forums , which some times can be hard .
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