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Old 01-28-2011, 03:22 AM   Thread Starter #1
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Default Shop Says Muffers Won't Make Any Difference...Hmmm ?

Ok so i went to a muffer shop today to have my raceline muffers installed and the guy told me its not gonna make any difference with the muffers..so i asked him wht do you mean well he said in order to do that u need to remove resonator and put a stright pipe with the stock muffers it will sound better other than putting the racline muffers on..he said the racline muffers will sound same as the stock muffers unless i remove the resonator..idk but that foo just confused me so i told him i will come back tom..

So my question is wht i do?

1) remove the resonator and leave the stock muffers on?
2) leave the resonator and put the racline muffers on?
3) remove both resonator and stock muffer nd put racline muffers on?

i dont want it to be loud just little deep sound..as loud as stock g35 or 350z i knw its not gonna be the same sound but just that loud..no more
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Old 01-28-2011, 03:25 AM   Thread Starter #2
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Default Re: A shop told me the muffers whouldnt make any difference..hmmm ?

Here the video below this guy had these muffer with cerrybomb glass pack i think
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Default Re: A shop told me the muffers whouldnt make any difference..hmmm ?

Remove everything from the cat back and buy the ebay catback system. You'll have an awsome sound and hp gain. I'm not sure what the exact hp gain because I've never owned that ebay exhaust, but you will get a better overall sound.
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Default Re: A shop told me the muffers whouldnt make any difference..hmmm ?

The only thing that produces sounds after your cat is the resonator and the mufflers. If you change mufflers, you will get a diff sound. If you change mufflers and delete the resonator, you will get the same sound as the new mufflers, just louder.

Go for whatever you are looking for. If you're after hp, you need a full catback. If it's subtle sound, change mufflers. If you're looking for Loudness remove the reso and change your mufflers.
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Default Re: A shop told me the muffers whouldnt make any difference..hmmm ?

If you remove the resonator totally, you may be surprised at how loud it will be inside the car. A lot of guys go with a larger resonator with aftermarket mufflers to quiet it down a little.
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I have stock mufflers with no resonator and it sounds great, no drone at all. I could make a video this weekend if anyone is interested.
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Default Re: A shop told me the muffers whouldnt make any difference..hmmm ?

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If you remove the resonator totally, you may be surprised at how loud it will be inside the car. A lot of guys go with a larger resonator with aftermarket mufflers to quiet it down a little.
I believe those are people with aftermarket B pipe and headers. Reason I say this is because I have no resonator and at one point had Cattman mufflers on and it was not loud at all, no drone either. I'm starting to think that people that say that it's super loud with no resonator, never have done it and are talking out of their ass or just don't know what loud is, seriously.
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Default Re: A shop told me the muffers whouldnt make any difference..hmmm ?

You don't know what loud is until you run straight pipe from the cat on back. It was just an experiment but I finally switched to the ebay catback and it sounds pretty good. Added the high flow cats and y-pipe and the sound is still pretty mellow.
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Default Re: A shop told me the muffers whouldnt make any difference..hmmm ?

i did the resonator delete with the stock muffler and noticed a change in sound but @ the same time im running ebay headers also.. the sound wasnt loud @ all which surprised me.. But now that i installed an ebay catback exhaust system i now have a tendancy to set off car alarms.. lol
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Default Re: A shop told me the muffers whouldnt make any difference..hmmm ?

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I have stock mufflers with no resonator and it sounds great, no drone at all. I could make a video this weekend if anyone is interested.
+1 for vid. i'm interested in that set up
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Default Re: A shop told me the muffers whouldnt make any difference..hmmm ?

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+1 for vid. i'm interested in that set up
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I have stock mufflers with no resonator and it sounds great, no drone at all. I could make a video this weekend if anyone is interested.
i am in for this video and sound clip, please.

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i did the resonator delete with the stock muffler and noticed a change in sound but @ the same time im running ebay headers also.. the sound wasnt loud @ all which surprised me.. But now that i installed an ebay catback exhaust system i now have a tendancy to set off car alarms.. lol
Dislike this, LOL. I have those that set off alarms
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Default Re: A shop told me the muffers whouldnt make any difference..hmmm ?

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I believe those are people with aftermarket B pipe and headers. Reason I say this is because I have no resonator and at one point had Cattman mufflers on and it was not loud at all, no drone either. I'm starting to think that people that say that it's super loud with no resonator, never have done it and are talking out of their ass or just don't know what loud is, seriously.
also too Ray is that you have a manual tranny so you wont be in the 200o to 3000rmp range all the time as a auto. but im up for a vid of your setup now if you could do that
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a Muffler shop can weld up and exhuast and do repairs, some Muffler shops really havent the slighest idea about how merger pipes, X-pipes and diameter piping to go with the engine displacement.

Some places 2nd guess " well you have a 6cyl and you should have X amount size "

in our case , if you ever looked underneath the Maxima ( on the car lift )

You will see the Bpipe ( acutally where it merges a Y to the mufflers ) the pipe is almost curshed from the factory.

basically the pipe is restricted, if you go with a ebay cat-back , this would be the easy way to upgrade and have the B-pipe

if you go to a muffler shop , you can always have them made a new pipe,

2.25 with a resonator B pipe made up to your new mufflers.

upgrading the b-pipe will see more gains than just mufflers
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Old 01-28-2011, 07:50 PM   Thread Starter #16
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Default Re: A shop told me the muffers whouldnt make any difference..hmmm ?

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I have stock mufflers with no resonator and it sounds great, no drone at all. I could make a video this weekend if anyone is interested.
ya bro can you put up the video.
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Well I put just mufflers on my 07 and it DOES make a difference in sound though I've noticed that inside the car the noise level comes and goes, but and idle and other RPM ranges its louder.
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Well I put just mufflers on my 07 and it DOES make a difference in sound though I've noticed that inside the car the noise level comes and goes, but and idle and other RPM ranges its louder.
Do you have any droning issues? What does your complete exhaust consist of?
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Do you have any droning issues? What does your complete exhaust consist of?
Right now its just mufflers 2 2.50" Thrush (Flowmaster style). It does drone, but with the CVT transmission I can control it fairly well. I'm going to try some videos at some point. I am slowly building a catback system though.
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What are you really looking for? A bit of sound or performance? I had only the Magnaflows for a long time and you could definitely hear a difference, feel a difference, not really. I have since gone straight pipe back with a 22" resonator and y-pipe. Definitely a difference. I've come to learn to trust pretty much no shop as most of them don't k ow or don't care. I have great mechanic now that knows and cares thankfully! Nowadays I do all my research, usually here, and then go in like I own the place! Pretty empowering and way less BS!!!!

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What are you really looking for? A bit of sound or performance? I had only the Magnaflows for a long time and you could definitely hear a difference, feel a difference, not really. I have since gone straight pipe back with a 22" resonator and y-pipe. Definitely a difference. I've come to learn to trust pretty much no shop as most of them don't k ow or don't care. I have great mechanic now that knows and cares thankfully! Nowadays I do all my research, usually here, and then go in like I own the place! Pretty empowering and way less BS!!!!

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im just looking for bit of sound..no performance for me since i have to pay 900 bucks for traffic ticket..
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Right now its just mufflers 2 2.50" Thrush (Flowmaster style). It does drone, but with the CVT transmission I can control it fairly well. I'm going to try some videos at some point. I am slowly building a catback system though.
If you can get any in-cabin sound clips, I'd like to hear them. I wouldn't mind doing an exhaust on my 07, but I know that fighting the droning issue has been a problem with the CVT trans.

I've heard sound clips of the Vibrant mufflers, and I'd LOVE to get a set of those.
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im just looking for bit of sound..no performance for me since i have to pay 900 bucks for traffic ticket..
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If you can get any in-cabin sound clips, I'd like to hear them. I wouldn't mind doing an exhaust on my 07, but I know that fighting the droning issue has been a problem with the CVT trans.

I've heard sound clips of the Vibrant mufflers, and I'd LOVE to get a set of those.
I'll try today as I'm out and about...see what this phone can do!
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Default Re: Shop Says Muffers Won't Make Any Difference...Hmmm ?

Originally Posted by Orbit View Post
Wtf :o
ya bro it sucks..
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