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Old 10-22-2011, 09:20 AM   Thread Starter #1
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Default Transmission Fluid- Flush Or Drain And Fill?

Hello all, just bought an 04 maxima SL , 4 AT with 64k miles.

I checked the trans fluid, it is sort of a dark red in color. No particles or burnt smell detected. I suspect its time for a change. Unsure what the previous owner has done.

Options-

Do a flush at the dealer- $155
Drain and fill myself once- $50
Drain and fill multiple twice- $100

The trans shifts absolutely perfect currently, just want to get that bright red color back.
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Default Re: Transmission Fluid- Flush Or Drain And Fill?

If you have no symptoms, I would think a drain & fill would be the best choice.
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Default Re: Transmission Fluid- Flush Or Drain And Fill?

Do not flush.

Drain and fill.

Search around and you will find more on this topic.

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Default Re: Transmission Fluid- Flush Or Drain And Fill?

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Hello all, just bought an 04 maxima SL , 4 AT with 64k miles.

I checked the trans fluid, it is sort of a dark red in color. No particles or burnt smell detected. I suspect its time for a change. Unsure what the previous owner has done.

Options-

Do a flush at the dealer- $155
Drain and fill myself once- $50
Drain and fill multiple twice- $100

The trans shifts absolutely perfect currently, just want to get that bright red color back.
I'd suggest you just do a drain and refill; then another one 20k miles on (or less), and you're set to go for a long while.
You're lucky to have the 04 SL 4AT, which is not prone to tranny issues like other 5AT counterparts.
I should add that you need Matic D ATF, and that you refill with as much as you drain, which for the 4AT might be as much as 5-6quarts.

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Drain and refill I do this every other oil change .
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Default Re: Transmission Fluid- Flush Or Drain And Fill?

Drain & Fill.. I do this every 30K, 60K, 90K etc.. I also drain & fill the coolant at these intervals also..
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Default Re: Transmission Fluid- Flush Or Drain And Fill?

yes do the drain and fill yourself, not by the dealer.
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Originally Posted by smittybizzle View Post
Drain and refill I do this every other oil change .
Whao! I hope that's no overkill.
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Default Re: Transmission Fluid- Flush Or Drain And Fill?

My car is currently at 82k and has never been flushed. The Nissan dealer told me to flush even if the car has never been flushed, "cocksuckers." Goood thing im not going to go with what the dealer suggested.
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Whao! I hope that's no overkill.
If you figure 5,000 to 7,500 miles per oil change, that places a drain and fill at 10,000 to 15,000 miles - it's probably spot on. I drain and fill every 3 changes and I swap oil at 5,000.
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My car is currently at 82k and has never been flushed. The Nissan dealer told me to flush even if the car has never been flushed, "cocksuckers." Goood thing im not going to go with what the dealer suggested.
So what do you propose to do?
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Originally Posted by timpol View Post
If you figure 5,000 to 7,500 miles per oil change, that places a drain and fill at 10,000 to 15,000 miles - it's probably spot on. I drain and fill every 3 changes and I swap oil at 5,000.
Me too.

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Me too.

115K on original trans. No issues and going strong...
With a 4speed auto as yours, I shouldn't be surprised.
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With a 4speed auto as yours, I shouldn't be surprised.
I keep up with maintenance and also have a tranny cooler installed. Keep in mind I ran nitrous on this tranny for 2 years straight.
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I keep up with maintenance and also have a tranny cooler installed. Keep in mind I ran nitrous on this tranny for 2 years straight.
Yeah, all very well and good; but then there were some who were as meticulous as you are and still had problems with their 5speed auto. The point is, the 4speed is without the fundamental flaw of the 5speed.
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Yeah, all very well and good; but then there were some who were as meticulous as you are and still had problems with their 5speed auto. The point is, the 4speed is without the fundamental flaw of the 5speed.
There are 4spd's that have had issues but mostly due to poor maintenance. Also some 5spds.

But overall, the 5spd is not a maintenance issue its kind of like a design flaw. That's why most people fix the problem by doing the transgo upgrade kit. Why continue to replace something that will fail again?
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The 5spd is not a maintenance issue its kind of like a design flaw. That's why most people fix the problem by doing the transgo upgrade kit. Why continue to replace something that will fail again?
lol. It remains to be seen whether the transgo kit is a permanent cure to the 5speed tranny. Anyone done 80k-100k miles with it? I'm curious, because that's the range the oem usually starts having issues.
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So what do you propose to do?
Im fucking heavily torn man..I dunno lol I'm all about the risks tho I have been my entire life..
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lol. It remains to be seen whether the transgo kit is a permanent cure to the 5speed tranny. Anyone done 80k-100k miles with it? I'm curious, because that's the range the oem usually starts having issues.
Remains to be seen? There are 5 people in the Brooklyn area who have gotten the transgo kit. One has around 60K with the kit. Prior to the kit he had his transmission replaced TWICE at under 50K. Hasn't had any more issues and is over 100K (approx. 60K w/trango kit).

At the end of the day, I don't see why you wouldn't install it if you are getting it rebuilt. Doesn't make sense to pay 1K for something that will go bad YET AGAIN. That's unless if you doing an upgraded valve body, torque converter etc....

But then again people don't have thousands to spend on upgrading their transmissions for a daily driver. So the transgo kit is the best option in my opinion. HEAT is what kills your transmission and that is what the kit fights against.

Also, ask Cory Xavier (@CXJ Performance) a member here if you would like more information about the kit since he installs them.

But anyways back to the flush/drain question. As mentioned, drain and refill is the best way to go. I also have a 05 5spd as a daily driver. Bought it with around 50K on the clock. Prior owner has the transmission replaced once and since then never did anything to it. So I went with drain/refills and everything is well due to the risk of a flush causing issues. Looking to do the transgo kit myself this summer on it.
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Im fucking heavily torn man..I dunno lol I'm all about the risks tho I have been my entire life..
I'd suggest you flush. It's safe so long as there are no metal shavings. It means your tranny is till ok. When I bought my car at 92k plus in May 2010 it had never been drained. The valve body had to been changed in June 2011 and I did a flush of three drains and then another drain 3 months later. It's been happy story since then.
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The transgo kit worked great for me. I went deeper into the valvebody and fixed other springs and valves not called out in the kit and gave it a deep cleaning using 2 cans of brake clean.
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yaa i think i'm gonna go for it and flush it..i think the recommended time to flush is 60,000 so i'm only 20,000 miles off give or take a lil..lol And if it is a total fail i'll scoop up a transgo kit and rip it!
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