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Old 03-26-2012, 02:35 PM   Thread Starter #51
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Originally Posted by 04 maxima seR View Post
Cory, is it possible for you to give me a complete list of parts needed?i want to do EVERYTHING possible while im in that area.thanks in advance
I wish i had the part numbers but i will list what you need

bank 1 tensioner with washer
bank 2 tensioner with washer
slack tensioner
slack guide
main guide
primary chain guide


primary chain
cam chain x2
ivt soleniod o rings x4
water pump
thermostat with gasket
valve cover gaskets - autozone
pvc valve - autozone
timing cover gaskets - autozone
black rtv gasket maker x2 - autozone

follow the fsm but note you do not have to remove the following , just place out of the way

alternator
power steering pump or fluid
compressor or ac line
crank sensor does not need removal
coolant only needs draining if you change thermostat or remove for easier valve cover removal/reinstalling clearance.


pro tip:

On the slack guide with black plastic which is the longest guide. Apply the rtv to the backside of it so that if the clip breaks again the rtv will hold it in place

remove the thermostat before placing timing cover back on. This gives you much more room to work with

bolt that goes into timing cover should be placed half way thru the timing cover while placing it back on.

now while everyone says oem is the way to go. i do belive that to a degree. Next time i do this job im going to buy this ebay kit.

2004-2008 Nissan Maxima 3.5L V6 VQ35DE TIMING SET | eBay


the guides are all plastic and it wears no matter what you buy

the tensioners are spring loaded so they are good. Its the shoes that wears

All in all i paid like $600.00 in parts and i know these will wear again but by then i might not even own the max. I do my own repairs so i will go with the ebay kit on the next go around. just my 2 cents

good luck and anyone can pm me or ask question if they need help. I did this job 4 times over and i know it like a pro now

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ok after installing my plugs i noticed that with the manifold off theres more room to access the side cover plate that holds the timing chain. i was quoted $1,800 for a new set but all i really want to change is the chain guides and the tesioner to get rid of the first start rattle and i would rather invest in the right tools and have the peace of mine that there were no extra bolts laying around my mechanics shop. i have never done a job like this but i have done just about everything to cars except pull a motor or a tranny and im not afraid to take apart anything ,so is this something this board could help me on? my next step is to just buy another motor and while its in the hoist i could change pulleys , pistons , cams , springs , rods and just drop the bitch in as a complete unit but thats a future project i have down the road
This time last year I went to the Stealership and gave them a little over $1700, no mechanic wanted to touch this job, but they did a good job, didnt hear a thing after that, they replaced a lot of parts when they did that job.
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I don't want to pay the dealer that amount but I just might have to .
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I don't want to pay the dealer that amount but I just might have to .
look at it like this, they know what there doing, and they warranty the work and the parts used! I didn't want to give them that much money, but I love my car, and I was tired of hearing that noise.
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look at it like this, they know what there doing, and they warranty the work and the parts used! I didn't want to give them that much money, but I love my car, and I was tired of hearing that noise.
Yeah I know , but I can do it myself if I still had a garage .
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Default Re: Replacing Timing Chain Tensioners

Cory, thanks alot.although i did not see the big chain in the list.i just want to make sure i have everything new.also i will be getting dealer prices on parts as my brother is a master tech there.really appreciate the help
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Yeah I know , but I can do it myself if I still had a garage .
This one guy did a video on youtube, he didn't even remove the engine, he made it look easy, but if you can "get it daddy" diy. I wish I was that handy, removing my front bumper was the biggest thing I ever did on a car, I was super happy, I felt like i put in work, lol!!
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Cory, thanks alot.although i did not see the big chain in the list.i just want to make sure i have everything new.also i will be getting dealer prices on parts as my brother is a master tech there.really appreciate the help
The big chain is listed as the primary chain
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Replacing the timing chains was one of the hardest time consuming job i have ever done. Lots of things have to be removed and you have to know a few tricks like the locking wrench trick to remove hard to get at bolts. My flex head rachet gear wrenches were very helpful on this job and have become one of my most prized tools. I would let a rachet set go on borrow before the wrenches
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This vid needs to go in the front with the TSB, very informative. It's actually two parts.

I recognize that voice as soon as the vid started, I believe this is Wildman04 from the big .org. We talked on the phone regarding switchbacks and lighting. He seems to be quite the guru.

Here is the 2nd part:

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I wish i had the part numbers but i will list what you need..............

good luck and anyone can pm me or ask question if they need help. I did this job 4 times over and i know it like a pro now

Looks like it might be my turn for this, I just noticed the other day my car is making that exact same sound as the start of the video, not quite that bad but itís the exact same.

Straight up dealership repair is my last option, Iíve got a shop that can probably do this for a little less (former Nissan Tech) does most of my work anyway.

I checked out that Ebay Kit Corey posted, great find. I may go that route depending on how much part from the dealership will cost through our resident
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Iím trying to match up all the parts with the numbers we do have listed in the thread, so when I ask Brian, I can just give him a complete list. It seems the TSB has some of the parts, the Ebay kit has the parts, no numbers but it also doesnít seem to have all the parts listed in the TSB.

@ Corey CXJ PERFORMANCE HELP! Any chance you can put the puzzle together a little further? All I could match up have X next to them and it wasnít much.

PARTS INFORMATION per the TSB
Engine Oil Filter VQ35 15208-65F00
Oil Pan Extension Front Seal VQ35 11121-7Y000
Engine Oil Filter VQ40 15208-9E000
Drain Plug Washer BOTH 11026-01M02


X - Secondary Timing Chain BOTH 13028-ZK00B (Need 2)
Secondary Timing Chain Tensioner, Bank 1 BOTH 13070-ZK01A
Secondary Timing Chain Tensioner, Bank 2 BOTH 13070-ZK01B
O-Ring, Front Cover BOTH 15066-2Y510 (Need 6)
O-Ring, Front Cover BOTH 15066-31U03
O-Ring, Front Cover BOTH 15066-31U02
Tensioner O-Ring BOTH 15066-ED010 (Need 2)
Crank Shaft Seal BOTH 13510-7Y000
Left Side Rocker Cover Gasket BOTH 13270-EA21A
Right Side Rocker Cover Gasket BOTH 13270-EA20A
VTC Solenoid Gaskets BOTH 23797-ZA000 (Need 2)



Additional Parts per BLKMAGIC
X - Primary chain part number is 13028-7Y000
Primary chain tensioner TSB is 13070-7Y000



Ebay Kit: $199 Timing Chain Kit Contains the following:
X (1) Timing Chain (Primary Lower Chain 196 links)
X (2) Timing Chains (Upper 1 Right - 1 Left)
(1) Timing Chain Tensioner (Lower)
(2) Timing Chain Tensioner Pads (Upper Left / Right Side) *
(1) Timing Chain Guide (Upper Left - Fixed)
(1) Timing Chain Guide (Right Side - Tensioner Rail)
(1) Timing Chain Guide (Upper - Fixed)


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on the ebay kit all your missing is the cam bank 1 and 2 tensioners but the shoes are the 2 beige parts shown above with no metal attached to them. you would just need 4 ivt soleniod washers and a feel pro valve cover gasket kit ( comes with timing cover o-ring and lower oil seal. forget everything that has to do with the oil pan. Just do a oil change and that would cover everything you need
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on the ebay kit all your missing is the cam bank 1 and 2 tensioners but the shoes are the 2 beige parts shown above with no metal attached to them. you would just need 4 ivt soleniod washers and a feel pro valve cover gasket kit ( comes with timing cover o-ring and lower oil seal. forget everything that has to do with the oil pan. Just do a oil change and that would cover everything you need
Okay so after combing parts from list in a couple thread the TSB (EddyMaxx), CJX and NiZMo1o1

I am seeing this:


Total Parts for a complete change
1 Primary Timing chain part number is 13028-7Y000
1 Primary Timing chain tensioner TSB is 13070-7Y000

(1) - Upper Timing Chain - Left Side 13028-ZK00B
(1) - Upper Timing Chain - Right Side 13028-ZK00B
Secondary Timing Chain Tensioner, Bank 1 13070-ZK01A
Secondary Timing Chain Tensioner, Bank 2 13070-ZK01B


1 Timing Chain Guide Rail (Upper Top - Fixed)
1 Timing Chain Guide Rail (Upper Center Left - Fixed)
1 Timing Chain Guide Rail (Right Side - Tensioner Rail)
1 Timing Chain Tensioner Guide Rail (Lower left)

(2) - Camshaft Sprocket - Exhaust - 24 Teeth
(1) - Crankshaft Sprocket - 21 Teeth


O-Ring, Front Cover BOTH 15066-2Y510 (Need 6)
O-Ring, Front Cover BOTH 15066-31U03
O-Ring, Front Cover BOTH 15066-31U02
Tensioner O-Ring BOTH 15066-ED010 (Need 2)
Crank Shaft Seal BOTH 13510-7Y000
Left Side Rocker Cover Gasket BOTH 13270-EA21A
Right Side Rocker Cover Gasket BOTH 13270-EA20A
VTC Solenoid Gaskets BOTH 23797-ZA000 (Need 2)
These come in a Timing Cover Gasket Set? Are they in that Fel Pro Kit below?

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Okay so after combing parts from list in a couple thread the TSB (EddyMaxx), CJX and NiZMo1o1

I am seeing this:


Total Parts for a complete change
1 Primary Timing chain part number is 13028-7Y000
1 Primary Timing chain tensioner TSB is 13070-7Y000

(1) - Upper Timing Chain - Left Side 13028-ZK00B
(1) - Upper Timing Chain - Right Side 13028-ZK00B
Secondary Timing Chain Tensioner, Bank 1 13070-ZK01A
Secondary Timing Chain Tensioner, Bank 2 13070-ZK01B


1 Timing Chain Guide Rail (Upper Top - Fixed)
1 Timing Chain Guide Rail (Upper Center Left - Fixed)
1 Timing Chain Guide Rail (Right Side - Tensioner Rail)
1 Timing Chain Tensioner Guide Rail (Lower left)

(2) - Camshaft Sprocket - Exhaust - 24 Teeth
(1) - Crankshaft Sprocket - 21 Teeth


O-Ring, Front Cover BOTH 15066-2Y510 (Need 6)
O-Ring, Front Cover BOTH 15066-31U03
O-Ring, Front Cover BOTH 15066-31U02
Tensioner O-Ring BOTH 15066-ED010 (Need 2)
Crank Shaft Seal BOTH 13510-7Y000
Left Side Rocker Cover Gasket BOTH 13270-EA21A
Right Side Rocker Cover Gasket BOTH 13270-EA20A
VTC Solenoid Gaskets BOTH 23797-ZA000 (Need 2)
These come in a Timing Cover Gasket Set? Are they in that Fel Pro Kit below?

I FOUND THIS KIT ON FOR $456
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That kit has eveything except the o rings needed for the cam tensioner and you will also need 4 IVT o-rings along with valve cover gaskets.

the feel pro kit has the timing cover o-ring along with the oil cover gasket. the other gaskets are for the water pump and o-rings if you were to remove the inner timing cover which you will not have to go that far

I would also buy an oem water pump to replace as well since your going to be in there. If you go that route you will have to drain the coolant from the car.

You can pm me for my personal cell number and we can make sure you have everything. Theres lots of tricks to this job and theres things you do not have to remove as the FSM states
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That kit has everything except the o rings needed for the cam tensioner and you will also need 4 IVT o-rings along with valve cover gaskets.

the feel pro kit has the timing cover o-ring along with the oil cover gasket. the other gaskets are for the water pump and o-rings if you were to remove the inner timing cover which you will not have to go that far

I would also buy an oem water pump to replace as well since your going to be in there. If you go that route you will have to drain the coolant from the car.

You can pm me for my personal cell number and we can make sure you have everything. Theres lots of tricks to this job and theres things you do not have to remove as the FSM states

Okay so the $456 dollar kit, has everything except

Cam tensioner O-rings (how many?)
4 IVT o-rings (what does IVT stand for?)
Valve cover gaskets


Are these in my list or am I missing them?

I like the idea of buying the OEM waterpump, might has well replace it too. Now I won't be doing this job myself, I'm just trying to make sure I got all the part figured out. Plus if we can get a comprehensive list together, you can post it at the beginning of this thread so everyone knows what they will need for this job.

I am also working with Brian/Nissan on OEM parts pricing, maybe I can get that posted up as well. He is out until the 23rd, I'll post once he gets back to me.
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Okay so the $456 dollar kit, has everything except

Cam tensioner O-rings (how many?)
4 IVT o-rings (what does IVT stand for?)
Valve cover gaskets


Are these in my list or am I missing them?

I like the idea of buying the OEM waterpump, might has well replace it too. Now I won't be doing this job myself, I'm just trying to make sure I got all the part figured out. Plus if we can get a comprehensive list together, you can post it at the beginning of this thread so everyone knows what they will need for this job.

I am also working with Brian/Nissan on OEM parts pricing, maybe I can get that posted up as well. He is out until the 23rd, I'll post once he gets back to me.
You will need 1 o-ring per cam tensioner

IVT - Intake Variable Timing. When you remove metal cover for the cam shafts there is 1 o-ring front and back on bank 1 and bank 2 so 4 total is needed

Valve cover gaskets you can get from autozone

I would say change the thermostat as well ( $23.00 OEM ) for completeness.
Plus your mechanic should remove it anyway for better clearance when removing and reinstalling the timing cover. Trust me it helps a whole lot doing this
Now you have a great running car for the next 60-70k unless you blow a head gaskets
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LOL I get you, cool. Thanks Cory, it's on my list, then it's back to the track.
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Old 04-22-2012, 07:44 PM   #70
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Default Re: Replacing Timing Chain Tensioners

for anyone that is in the souther california area i can do this job in one day. i charge $450 in labor and has done this job hundreds of times i can get parts too if you do not know what to get i guarantee my work and know you will not have any leaks when im done i can replace other parts while im in there doing the job at no additional charge like water pump, drivebelt (that comes off anyway) top right engine mount (also comes off) if you have any questions about this or any other topic on your maxima let me know been with nissan for a while now and am certified

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for anyone that is in the souther california area i can do this job in one day. i charge $500 in labor and has done this job hundreds of times i can get parts too if you do not know what to get i guarantee my work and know you will not have any leaks when im done i can replace other parts while im in there doing the job at no additional charge like water pump, drivebelt (that comes off anyway) top right engine mount (also comes off) if you have any questions about this or any other topic on your maxima let me know been with nissan for a while now and am certified


That sounds like a good deal to me to bad I'm in Denver. I'm going to my tech tomorrow, get it checked out.
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Here is an interesting thing, my tech said that sometimes that synthetic blend oil runs thin AND that the OEM Nissan oil filter has a "backflow plug" so the oil doesn't drain completely out of it while the motor is turned off.

Changed my oil on Monday with regular 5-30w and a OEM filter, so far no more ticking. He said our motors are built very well but he was aware of the tensioners wearing but said that was on the new vehicles and not just Maximas.

Not sure I am out of the water but for now seems thing fine. Keeping an eye on it.
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Here is an interesting thing, my tech said that sometimes that synthetic blend oil runs thin AND that the OEM Nissan oil filter has a "backflow plug" so the oil doesn't drain completely out of it while the motor is turned off.

Changed my oil on Monday with regular 5-30w and a OEM filter, so far no more ticking. He said our motors are built very well but he was aware of the tensioners wearing but said that was on the new vehicles and not just Maximas.

Not sure I am out of the water but for now seems thing fine. Keeping an eye on it.
I do notice that in my max after 4k miles the oil seems super thin,i also use synthetic blend,im going back to change the oil every 3000 or 3500 miles.
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