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Old 03-14-2010, 01:36 PM   Thread Starter #1
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Default Replacing Timing Chain Tensioners

ok after installing my plugs i noticed that with the manifold off theres more room to access the side cover plate that holds the timing chain. i was quoted $1,800 for a new set but all i really want to change is the chain guides and the tesioner to get rid of the first start rattle and i would rather invest in the right tools and have the peace of mine that there were no extra bolts laying around my mechanics shop. i have never done a job like this but i have done just about everything to cars except pull a motor or a tranny and im not afraid to take apart anything ,so is this something this board could help me on? my next step is to just buy another motor and while its in the hoist i could change pulleys , pistons , cams , springs , rods and just drop the bitch in as a complete unit but thats a future project i have down the road
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Yeah... I remember having that issue with my 6thgen back in 2008. It was an annoying rattle when you started the car and only went away after the car was on for quite some time. Below is all the information you need. I have a paid subscription so I was able to pull the TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) for you.

TSB NTB07-042

Classification:
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Reference: NTB07-042a
Date: April 17, 2009

Description:
VQ ENGINE; BUZZING / WHINING NOISE FROM TIMING CHAIN AREA

This bulletin has been amended to update Parts Information. No other content has been changed. Discard all previous versions of this bulletin.

APPLIED VEHICLES: 2004-2008 Maxima (A34)

IF YOU CONFIRM:

There is a buzzing / whining noise coming from one or both secondary timing chain / camshaft sprocket areas. The noise may increase with engine speed (RPM).

ACTION:

1. Replace both secondary timing chains and both secondary timing chain tensioners with the ones from the Parts Information section of this bulletin.

2. Change the engine oil and filter.

PARTS INFORMATION
Engine Oil Filter VQ35 15208-65F00
Oil Pan Extension Front Seal VQ35 11121-7Y000
Engine Oil Filter VQ40 15208-9E000
Drain Plug Washer BOTH 11026-01M02
Secondary Timing Chain BOTH 13028-ZK00B (Need 2)
Secondary Timing Chain Tensioner, Bank 1 BOTH 13070-ZK01A
Secondary Timing Chain Tensioner, Bank 2 BOTH 13070-ZK01B
O-Ring, Front Cover BOTH 15066-2Y510 (Need 6)
O-Ring, Front Cover BOTH 15066-31U03
O-Ring, Front Cover BOTH 15066-31U02
Tensioner O-Ring BOTH 15066-ED010 (Need 2)
Crank Shaft Seal BOTH 13510-7Y000
Left Side Rocker Cover Gasket BOTH 13270-EA21A
Right Side Rocker Cover Gasket BOTH 13270-EA20A
VTC Solenoid Gaskets BOTH 23797-ZA000 (Need 2)

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Default Re: Replacing Timing Chain Tensioners

so if i do all this then ill have to pull the motor? did you do your yourself or did the harjit guy everyone recomends did it? i fell if im going to spend a grand or more on labor then i'll do it myself
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so if i do all this then ill have to pull the motor? did you do your yourself or did the harjit guy everyone recomends did it? i fell if im going to spend a grand or more on labor then i'll do it myself
No you don't have to pull the motor for the tensioners. The pictures show a full timing chain replacement. I had this done back in 08 at a shop and it was done without pulling the motor. I definelty wouldn't do this myself because i don't have the tools nor space.

Somethings you can get away doing yourself... but this is not one of those. You can create a bigger problem. For me... I took it to someone who has done this type of job countless times. I wish I knew Harjit then lol... But actually Harjit can do this job!!! Send him a PM for a quote. Its not a quick job.

Sure you can do it yourself... but what if something goes wrong?? You would end up having to take it to a shop either way to fix it. Just my .2 cents.
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i dont see him on the member list do you have a contact for him. im also located in New Haven , CT so i might have to drop it off but i really dont mine traveling for a good mechanic and the price also matters. your also right this is one of those jobs that just might be out of my league if a problem happens, but i could do the job. what time frame do you think it could be done in ? 2-3 days?
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yes very pricey. i hear this is very common for 6th gens.
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i need this job done also. just dont have the money for it
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i dont see him on the member list do you have a contact for him. im also located in New Haven , CT so i might have to drop it off but i really dont mine traveling for a good mechanic and the price also matters. your also right this is one of those jobs that just might be out of my league if a problem happens, but i could do the job. what time frame do you think it could be done in ? 2-3 days?
Doin it urself isnt recommended but if ur confident u can do it about a whole day. Harjit would probally take about 6-8 hrs from start to finish if he's only workin on ur car. U have a garage?
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been here, done this lol. While the engine doesn't have to come out, if you have big hands, its a pain in the ass just to get the side cover off, nevermind do the swap. When we did mine I replaced EVERYTHING in there, not just the tensioner and guides, because a bad tensioner can cause the chain to stretch the littlest bit, which could mess up how it works with the new tensioner...just a thought Cory, you dont want to have to do the job twice
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i do have a garage and i believe i can do it. it really depends on how much this harjit will charge me for it. anyone have a contact infor for him? if i do try it i would start on a friday and pray im done by sunday
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hey eddy im looking at what parts will run me and i see that your list is missing the main chain ( the long one )
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Cory, where are you ordering the parts from? Check out http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...?siteid=214143, I used them, cheap prices, super fast shipping, and ALL OEM PARTS, comes in the same packages as the ones you get from the dealer, 100% legit.
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hey eddy im looking at what parts will run me and i see that your list is missing the main chain ( the long one )
Not sure. Those were all the parts listed in the actual Nissan TSB.
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I have the part numbers at home, i'll get it to you when I get out of work Cory
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i was ordering from nissanpartsdirect.com but your place seems to be cheaper than anyone so far.

eddy maybe the tsb doesnt call for you to replace the main chain in the fix
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the TSB is only what you HAVE to change, not what you probably should change while your in there, I changed all the chains, tensioners, guides, pump, and plugs while the car was apart, instead of having to rip it all apart again cause something went a short time after
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the mechanic in our mainntenace department said he'll charge $900.00 for labor alone!! my bitch is about to get molested by me as soon as i get the parts
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I hear you, but keep in mind $900 isn't an insane price. Inskip Nissan wanted over $2000 in labor when I went in about it, which is why me and my uncle did it in my garage. But even him being a mechanic his whole life (although mostly building american hot rods, not import shit), the job was a good 10 hours of work time, spread over 2 afternoons/nights...altho he said if he had to do it again, after doing it once and seeing how it comes apart/goes together first hand, he could probably do it in 5-7
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even if i have to tilt the motor i believe i can do it. i just need those part numbers from ya
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yea man, as soon as I get home and dig them out i'll hook you up
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the primary chain part number is 13028-7Y000, and the primary chain tensioner which is also not in the TSB is 13070-7Y000
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ok i guess im going in on this one. wish me luck. with all these mods ive been doing lately with the cases of beer to help im going to turn out to be a drunk.lol i was buzzed up installing sway bars, stone drunk during the kyb gr2 + progress install, and ripped up with the spark plugs. i see A A in my near future if i keep playing with this org.
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haha, good luck Cory, let me know how you make out
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one question. is the bolt that holds the pulley on reverse style?
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ummm i dont get what you mean? You will need a pulley puller set to get it off without putting pressure on the cover and possible cracking it
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