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Old 03-29-2011, 02:30 AM   Thread Starter #1
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Default Is My Catalytic Converter Bad?

My check engine light comes on so i take the car to my mechanic and the car sets off P420 emissions code . My mechanic tells me the catalytic converter is bad so i come back one week later to get it fix then he tells me its not that ,its just an o2 sensor . So i get the sensor replaced for 200 and after that i thought everything was fine but a few weeks later the check engine light came on again with the same code then they thoroughly check the exhaust system under the car then they say it is the catalytic converter cuz they hear some odd noise coming from it but then i asked him that means my o2 sensor was probably good all along and he no it had to replaced regardless because it was burning too much oil . Now my question of the day is how do i really know if my catalytic converter really is messed up ?? whats the best way to find out and if the whole me changing the o2 sensor was unnecessary probably ??
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My check engine light comes on so i take the car to my mechanic and the car sets off P420 emissions code . My mechanic tells me the catalytic converter is bad so i come back one week later to get it fix then he tells me its not that ,its just an o2 sensor . So i get the sensor replaced for 200 and after that i thought everything was fine but a few weeks later the check engine light came on again with the same code then they thoroughly check the exhaust system under the car then they say it is the catalytic converter cuz they hear some odd noise coming from it but then i asked him that means my o2 sensor was probably good all along and he no it had to replaced regardless because it was burning too much oil . Now my question of the day is how do i really know if my catalytic converter really is messed up ?? whats the best way to find out and if the whole me changing the o2 sensor was unnecessary probably ??
The only way I know of is to pull the converter, and see if the honeycomb material inside the converter is breaking down. This material will break down and foul the converter. When this starts happening, it needs to be changed, as the material COULD be sucked into the engine...causing damage. Unfortunately, you're probably going to have to pull it off and look.
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Default Re: is my catalytic converter bad ?

As Don said.. the only way to check is by removing it and checking inside...

They cost a lot for a new one.. if you plan on getting a y pipe.. your better off just getting a y pipe and installing it since it doesnt have a cat on it. meow
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As Don said.. the only way to check is by removing it and checking inside...

They cost a lot for a new one.. if you plan on getting a y pipe.. your better off just getting a y pipe and installing it since it doesnt have a cat on it. meow
If its the cat going bad, its not the one down by the ypipe because thats not metered so it wont throw a code. Hes trowing a code so it may be the first two cats up front as they are the ones being metered.

Now op as Don said, only way to see if any one of those are bad is to take them out and check them. On to the other issue the mechanic will NEVER say the sensor was good in the first place because he dosent want to give you money back or have you complain, so most will just say you HAVE TO change it any way.

How many miles are on your car? because Cats are under warranty until 80K if you are under 80k you may have to visit the dealer. Keep us posted

PS. I just reread your post and the mechanic said the cat under the car by the exhaust may bad because "he hears some odd noise" he may be full of SHIT because as i stated that cat is not metered so it wont throw a code and you my friend have a code
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If its the cat going bad, its not the one down by the ypipe because thats not metered so it wont throw a code. Hes trowing a code so it may be the first two cats up front as they are the ones being metered.
PS. I just reread your post and the mechanic said the cat under the car by the exhaust may bad because "he hears some odd noise" he may be full of SHIT because as i stated that cat is not metered so it wont throw a code and you my friend have a code
We only have 1 CATALYTIC CONVERTER... by the y pipe... and also stated mechanic said the cat under the car...

above would be precats...
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Default Re: Is My Catalytic Converter Bad?

Steveo what I am saying is the mechanic may be full of SHIT because even if that cat is BAD, it WONT throw a CODE. Hes throwing a code so it may be one of the precats.
The dealer wont check any of the cats unless they have a code for it, trust me i know. i went to the dealer for other things and told them my mechanic said the cat by the ypipe is bad and they said and i quote "its not throwing a code so we cant check it" I said but its "unmetered it wont throw a code" Long story short, dealer said theres nothing they can do since theres no code. Now OP has a code, so she may have to go to the stealership
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Hmax,

If that unmetered cat is failing and the filter material is clogging, won't that throw an emissions code? I thought some other guys here got codes when their unmetered cats failed?
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Hmax,

If that unmetered cat is failing and the filter material is clogging, won't that throw an emissions code? I thought some other guys here got codes when their unmetered cats failed?

Don, thats a good possibility but i never heard of that though. Maybe we get Dolla to confirm some of this stuff, so I dont give OP some bad advice

Heres my story, was stuck on some ice and Dolla came and helped me out, while trying to get my car out, he notified me that my cat is clogged (the one by the yipe) I had to go to the dealer for my sealtbelt fix and they said they cant check it becuse theres no code for it, but if its not metered, how can you get a code? i know dealer wont willingly go under there to pull it out and check it because they told me that,
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fyi

My cat went on my max at 18k miles and that was discovered after 4 trips to the dealer for the SES light in which they blamed everything else other than the cat. It was only after they contacted Nissan did they figure out it was the cat.
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^^ good info

My girl went thru the same exact problem, she paid to have 02 sensors and everything else replaced, just to end up replacing the cat anyway. These mechanics are fukin rediculou$
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thanks guys this is really helpful...im actually at 83k miles so im just off the catalytic converter warranty FML...but i will go to a better mechanic and have them remove it so they can check it out more thoroughly...
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You get the light, code... and a foul smells like rotten eggs... If catalytic is bad... it damages the sensor... so the sensor got f-up again.

regardless... he needs to tell you which cat is bad, bank 1 or bank 2...

had this problem and yeah it was bad.... thanks to dolla he found a way to get it fixed... thanks man.
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Guys, I think the cat in the Y-pipe is metered. BUT I've never actually heard of one going bad. (except for mine but I'll post on that soon)

Here is the Cattman with a cat, it has place for the 0/2 sensors
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Here is one installed (not my car)
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Generally speaking though you are right, it's probably the pre-cats and replacing the O2 sensor won't fix it and they don't need to be replaced if the pre-cat(s) go bad.

Mine went bad, way back and thats how I ended up with headers.
http://forums.maxima.org/6th-generat...rade-time.html

Good idea on getting them pulled and checked ASAP, because the can truly ruin your engine.

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Guys, I think the cat in the Y-pipe is metered. BUT I've never actually heard of one going bad. (except for mine but I'll post on that soon)

Here is the Cattman with a cat, it has place for the 0/2 sensors
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Here is one installed (not my car)
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Generally speaking though you are right, it's probably the pre-cats and replacing the O2 sensor won't fix it and they don't need to be replaced if the pre-cat(s) go bad.

Mine went bad, way back and thats how I ended up with headers.
http://forums.maxima.org/6th-generat...rade-time.html

Good idea on getting them pulled and checked ASAP, because the can truly ruin your engine.

Here is a header and a pre-cat side by side
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Thanks for chiming in...very good info!
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you need these buddy.



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so what your saying is that the pre-cat. the one under your car is metered and could go bad?. because i have just recently got the P0420 code. and they said its the one under my car. which means the pre-cat??
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so what your saying is that the pre-cat. the one under your car is metered and could go bad?. because i have just recently got the P0420 code. and they said its the one under my car. which means the pre-cat??
I think the general consensus is that the cat in the Y-pipe is UNmetered. It COULD fail, but typically the cats that fail and throw codes are the cats attached to the exhaust manifolds...look at the pic above of the exhaust manifold next to the aftermarket header...that is the cat that will typically go bad and throw a code.
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alright thanks. i think i understand this now. im going to have to lift my car and take a peak to which one is it. im looking into this and im just reading different things and im getting thrown off a bit. but the one in that pic is the one under the car??

but i am thinking of just eliminating the third cat. but i live in California and idk if they will allow that. most of the parts cant be shipped over here. which suks
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