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Old 10-18-2012, 11:15 PM   Thread Starter #1
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So yesterday I noticed the car was driving weird. As I was cruising at about 35mph all of a sudden it would feel like the car would down shift and the rpms would kinda jump. It did this a couple times through out the day and earlier today.

On my way home from work today it's still doing it but then I go to get on the freeway and it wouldn't go past 40 mph or around 2000 rpms. If I just kept it at a little over 2000 rpms I finally got up to speed and was able to cruise home at around 60mph.

If I accelerated at all around 40 mph it would jerk hard and feel like it was downshifting really bad.

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How many miles on it? Remember Nissan extended the warranty to 120,000 miles.
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So yesterday I noticed the car was driving weird. As I was cruising at about 35mph all of a sudden it would feel like the car would down shift and the rpms would kinda jump. It did this a couple times through out the day and earlier today.

On my way home from work today it's still doing it but then I go to get on the freeway and it wouldn't go past 40 mph or around 2000 rpms. If I just kept it at a little over 2000 rpms I finally got up to speed and was able to cruise home at around 60mph.

If I accelerated at all around 40 mph it would jerk hard and feel like it was downshifting really bad.

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Sounds like your CVT is the problem and the TCM went into limp mode to protect the tranny. If you are under 120K make an appointment at the dealership and they should replace it. They are replacing them by a boat load...they just wont tell you that, but the techs talk....
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Old 10-18-2012, 11:28 PM   Thread Starter #4
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It's just over 70,000. You think they will sweat me about service receipts? I haven't had the fluid changed yet. Although I just checked it and it looks ok still.
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It's just over 70,000. You think they will sweat me about service receipts? I haven't had the fluid changed yet. Although I just checked it and it looks ok still.
Be prepared to be asked. If they find a reason to void warranty they will. Find a shop that will give you a post dated receipt if needed, and have the fluid changed with Nissan CVT Fluid NS-2 prior to going in for your claim.
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LOL, let me join you here since I am having same problem. Mine kinda is doing the same thing, but not really as yours.

Mine when I am between 30 to 45mph and let go off the gas, car downshifts. Not hard, though. Then some times when I am accelerating from zero, when I get to 25 or 30 and let go the gas, the car kind of forces itself to upshift. Car jerks a little.

Check engine light was on and I took to the dealer and paid for diagnosis. Dealer called me to the repair room where my car was raised up in the air. Then mechanic showed me it is my bank 1 catalytic converter. Well, they quoted me $1200 for repairs. I asked if it was my transmission as I am guessing it is the transmission. Well, the mechanic told me he put the transmission to test and it did not tell him it had any problems. Then he said he was very impressed at how clean my cvt fluid was and how smooth my transmission feels.

So, I am confused at what might be wrong with this car. Mine drives awesome from zero. And from 50 to 90, can goes strong! I just don't understand.

Where can I buy a replacement catalytic converter, other than stock catalytic converter? Can anyone help? Any recommendations?

I went here and say these 3 parts. I don't know if these would be a perfect fit. Does anybody know which one is the front cat and which is the rear cat? and will this work great?

RockAuto Parts Catalog

Any help for us with this jerking would be greatly appreciated.

Just a random question: How much does it cost to get a new CVT replaced on my 2008 Maxima with 134,000 miles at the dealership? $3,500? Or what is the price?
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I've been reading some people talking about the MAF sensor.

Would that cause these symptoms? Although Ive had the intake on for a while with no issues.
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My car went into safe mode when when one of the wires on my MAF lost connection
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My car went into safe mode when when one of the wires on my MAF lost connection
How could you tell? Could you see the loose wire right at the connection?
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How could you tell? Could you see the loose wire right at the connection?
I was getting a code for my IAT sensor
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Damnit!!

I've got no check engine light. My CVT is phucked huh?
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Damnit!!

I've got no check engine light. My CVT is phucked huh?
No worries you have warranty. You should be getting a replacement.

Have your Max scanned to see what Cel relates to.
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No worries you have warranty. You should be getting a replacement.

Have your Max scanned to see what Cel relates to.
There is no CEL light on. You think a scan will show anything?
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There is no CEL light on. You think a scan will show anything?
I'm sorry, I miss read your post and was thinking you have a CEL.
Since you don't have a CEL, change your fluid per maintenance schedule, get a post dated receipt and go see the dealer for warranty claim.
Scanning the vehicle (live data)will tell a Tech whether your transmission is in a limp mode and the reason why in most cases....you can also see looking at freeze frame data when the incident occurred, at what RPM, engine temp, etc.
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I figured it out last night. It seems to be one of the ABS sensors.

I cleaned the MAF sensor then took it for a spin and it still was doing it but then I could hear it was the ABS kicking on and not the engine revving. Then at slower speeds I could feel the brake pulsing.

Looks like the same issue 1hawaii50 was having...

Possible CVT, Or Engine Troubles?
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Now I just need to figure out which sensor is causing it. I found a TSB and it talks about the rear passenger side being a culprit. Guess I'll start there.
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Now I just need to figure out which sensor is causing it. I found a TSB and it talks about the rear passenger side being a culprit. Guess I'll start there.
No need to see which sensor its for unless you really want to. Just visually inspect the front sensors for metal shavings/debris and if all is good up front clear the rear hubs.

Yes the TSB calls for Right Rear. Personally I would recommend cleaning both rear hubs ASAP before you kill your ABS Actuator.
If you are careful, you can reuse the white plastic covers that sit inside the spindle protecting from elements getting in....
What I So recommend is drilling a 1/4 hole in the bottom of the plastic to serve as a drain hole.
There is a drain hole in the front if the hub or directly below the front of the hub....IMO a second hole in the back plastic ring helps moisture relief. That's why I Do on each one and so far I have not had a comeback.

Caution. When you are going to remove the rear sensors, be careful. If the 10mm bolts holding the sensor do not budge, DO NOT use force. That bolt will snap because its oxidized from being housed in the aluminium spindle....
At that point you have an option to leave the job and take it to the dealer or a reputable shop to use heat/lube and voodoo in order to free the ABS sensor bolts up....if you brake the bolt you have to drill and possibly retap the spindle.....At that point its a HUGE PITA.
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Thanks for all the info. I haven't been driving it since this started so hopefully the actuator is all good.

Any idea what the dealer would charge me to take care of this? I usually do all work myself but I really don't feel like opening a can of worms.
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Thanks for all the info. I haven't been driving it since this started so hopefully the actuator is all good.

Any idea what the dealer would charge me to take care of this? I usually do all work myself but I really don't feel like opening a can of worms.
Anytime, I have no idea about pricing. You can try to see if they budge...You are in the warm climate, you should not have a problem. The problems usually exist in snow areas. Maybe Don can chime in on the pricing part....Paging @1hawaii50
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No need to see which sensor its for unless you really want to. Just visually inspect the front sensors for metal shavings/debris and if all is good up front clear the rear hubs.

Yes the TSB calls for Right Rear. Personally I would recommend cleaning both rear hubs ASAP before you kill your ABS Actuator.
If you are careful, you can reuse the white plastic covers that sit inside the spindle protecting from elements getting in....
What I So recommend is drilling a 1/4 hole in the bottom of the plastic to serve as a drain hole.
There is a drain hole in the front if the hub or directly below the front of the hub....IMO a second hole in the back plastic ring helps moisture relief. That's why I Do on each one and so far I have not had a comeback.

Caution. When you are going to remove the rear sensors, be careful. If the 10mm bolts holding the sensor do not budge, DO NOT use force. That bolt will snap because its oxidized from being housed in the aluminium spindle....
At that point you have an option to leave the job and take it to the dealer or a reputable shop to use heat/lube and voodoo in order to free the ABS sensor bolts up....if you brake the bolt you have to drill and possibly retap the spindle.....At that point its a HUGE PITA.
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Thanks for all the info. I haven't been driving it since this started so hopefully the actuator is all good.

Any idea what the dealer would charge me to take care of this? I usually do all work myself but I really don't feel like opening a can of worms.
I snapped the bolt in the rear hub on the passenger side. Then I tried to drill it out...I was almost all the way through when the drill bit broke inside of the bolt...

I pulled the hub and took it up to our service dept...took us a couple of hours and numerous bits to drill through the broken bit and get the broken bolt out. By that time, we had boogered up the hole pretty good. We were able to retap the hole for a larger bolt, but it was pretty ugly. I got it back together, and the car drove fine for 4 months. Then one day on the way to work, the car wouldn't accelerate over 20mph, and the ABS would actuate as soon as I stepped on the brake. I had it towed to the dealership where they naturally told me that "whoever replaced the rear ABS sensor screwed up the hub and they used a non-oem sensor. The sensor is causing the issue". I got into a huge argument with the service manager...I told them I did the work on the car, and I didn't replace the sensor...they kept claiming that I did and that they would NOT warranty it. I scheduled a meeting with the owner of the dealership the following day and had a nice long conversation with him.

End of the day...my bill was $1400 to replace the knuckle, and the rear passenger ABS sensor...I ended up paying half of it.

That being said, I barely used any force on that bolt when it broke...I was using a small 3/8 ratchet. I would recommend getting a center punch, center it on the bolt and give it a couple good whacks with a hammer before you touch it with a wrench/socket...
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More than likely, the problem is only one of the rear sensors...they are around $100 each from RockAuto. If you go to the dealership, God only knows what they are going to charge you.
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So I think I've decided I'm gonna take it to the dealer tomorrow. But it's almost to the point where I can't drive it and don't want to ruin the actuator.

Do you think i could just unplug the sensor so it's drivable?
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Ok you can't just unplug the sensors. When I do that the ABS just activates as soon as I turn ignition on.
@BurntOrangeAppeal So what exactly do I clean and how should it be cleaned. I pulled the hubs off both rear wheels and "cleaned them" but I'm still getting the issue.

Anything I can do to temporarily fix it so I can at least get it to the dealer if I cant get this sorted out?
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Ok you can't just unplug the sensors. When I do that the ABS just activates as soon as I turn ignition on.
@BurntOrangeAppeal So what exactly do I clean and how should it be cleaned. I pulled the hubs off both rear wheels and "cleaned them" but I'm still getting the issue.

Anything I can do to temporarily fix it so I can at least get it to the dealer if I cant get this sorted out?
You should unplug the right front sensor. The cable plug for that sensor is just next to the front of passenger front strut tower. This should disable your ABS as well as your speedo will stop working. Clean the hubs according to the ABS TSB. I will post more info when I get home later on.
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Ok you can't just unplug the sensors. When I do that the ABS just activates as soon as I turn ignition on.
@BurntOrangeAppeal So what exactly do I clean and how should it be cleaned. I pulled the hubs off both rear wheels and "cleaned them" but I'm still getting the issue.

Anything I can do to temporarily fix it so I can at least get it to the dealer if I cant get this sorted out?
Bootz, follow this link below and make sure you clean the sensor and the hub ring which the sensors read...Follow the TSB below
http://ww2.justanswer.com/uploads/ba...NTB07-016b.pdf

If you cleaned everything in the rear, and inspected the front sensors and the ABS system is still malfanctioning, then you need to take the vehicle and get it scanned to see which sensor is bad....then just replace the sensor or sensors for what the codes are. Sometimes cleaning will be enough and sometimes the sensor replacement and cleaning will be necessary

If you have a "C1110" code stored this means the ABS actuator has been pumping in the background way before the issue has become evident or you noticed it and the ABS Actuator will need replacement.
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