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Old 02-18-2013, 11:20 PM   Thread Starter #1
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Default Conversion 4spd Into 6spd Manual!

Converting my 4speed auto into 6 speed manual! I'm really nervous n wanna knw ALL the parts I need. I did research n found all this. Is there more parts? My transmission gave out n I'm stuck on second gear It won't go into third. I love my maxima, it was my first car n keepin it 4ever. I wanna knw what else I need cuz I'm buying everything OEM cuz I have a hook up at a Nissan dealer. So I'm be safe n buy everything brand new n oem! Except for clutch line, flywheel n clutch n I anything else u guys think? Thank u n hope to hear from the maxima world.

I was working on this list to help any of the guys who are interested in a 6spd swap get an idea of the parts they need with average prices.

I havenít finished it yet because I would like for some of you guys to help source the part numbers and prices for the parts below. The actual part numbers must be from 2004-2006 6spd 6thgens only. I know you could mix and match or modify parts from other gens but this is only for direct part swaps.

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6spd Swap - Official Parts List
6spd Transmission From a 04-06 6thgen
Part # :
Average Price:
Alternatives:
Altima SE-R 6spd Transmission
Sentra SE-R 6spd Transmission (You will need to use the Maxima bell housing for this to work)

6spd ECU
Part # :
Average Price:
Alternatives: (They work just fine)
Exisiting 5spd Auto ECU
Exisiting 4spd Auto ECU

6spd Left/Right Axles
Part # (Left) :
Part # (Right) :
Average Price:

6spd Transmission Mount (Credit: jhbsolo)
Part # : 11220-7y110
Average Price: $80.00

Engine Support (Bolts to Trans Mount) (Credit: jhbsolo)
Part # : 11220-7y110
Average Price: $45.00


Clutch Reservoir (Credit: jhbsolo)
Part # : 30617-8j10a
Average Price: $9.00

Shifter Lock Wiring
Part # :
Average Price:

Short Throw Shifter
Part # :
Average Price:

Shifter Assembly
Part # :
Average Price:

Clutch Pedal Assembly
Part # :
Average Price:

Shifter Cables
Part # :
Average Price:

Clutch Master/Slave Cylinder
Part # :
Average Price:

Flywheel Bolts (Credit: jhbsolo)
Part # : 12315-8j100
Average Price: $4.00 (Each)

6spd Starter
Part # :
Average Price:

Clutch Bearing
Part # :
Average Price:
Clutch Pedal (Credit: jhbsolo)
Part # : 46503-3z105
Average Price: $50.00

Brake Pedal (Credit: jhbsolo)
Part # : 46501-8j005
Average Price: $22.00
Recommended Upgrades (This is optional but if you have the funds, might as well)
Competition Clutch Stage 4 $354.43
Fidanza Aluminum Lightweight Flywheel $425.00
SS Clutch Line $40.00

Other Helpful Threads:
1-Piece Stainless Steel Clutch Lines (6spd's Only) 04-06: 1-Piece Stainless Steel Clutch Lines (6spd's Only) - my6thgen.org - Maxima Forum
Manual Transmission Clutch Upgrades (6spd's Only) 04-06: Manual Transmission Clutch Upgrades (6spd's Only) - my6thgen.org - Maxima Forum
Manual Flywheel Upgrades (6spd's Only) 04-06: Manual Flywheel Upgrades (6spd's Only) - my6thgen.org - Maxima Forum
04-06 NYC's First Official 6spd Swap 04-06: NYC's First Official 6spd Swap (100% Successful) - my6thgen.org - Maxima Forum


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man i always wanted to do this to my maxima, if my max was 6 speed i would of kept it forever! goodluck man and keep us updated im sure someone will help you out soon
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. @BurntOrangeAppeal should be able to help.
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6spd Swap - Official Parts List
6spd Transmission From a 04-06 6thgen
Part # :
Without LSD 320107y466 $2267.32
With LSD 320107y476 $2155.54

Alternatives:
Altima SE-R 6spd Transmission
Sentra SE-R 6spd Transmission (You will need to use the Maxima bell housing for this to work)

Maxima Bellhousing
Part # 304008H812
Average Price: $479.05

6spd ECU
Part # : 237107y006
Average Price: $818.08

Alternatives: (They work just fine)
Exisiting 5spd Auto ECU
Exisiting 4spd Auto ECU

6spd Left/Right Axles
Part # (Left) : 391017y010
Part # (Right) : 391007y010
Average Price: 572.66 each


6spd Transmission Mount (Credit: jhbsolo)
Part # : 11220-7y110
Average Price: $80.00

Engine Support (Bolts to Trans Mount) (Credit: jhbsolo)
Part # : 11220-7y110
Average Price: $45.00


Clutch Reservoir (Credit: jhbsolo)
Part # : 30617-8j10a
Average Price: $9.00

Shifter Lock Wiring
Part # :
Average Price:

Short Throw Shifter
Part # :
Average Price:

Shifter Assy (courtesy parts)
Part# 34101-A34001
Price: $ 84.63

Shifter knob (courtesy parts)
Part # : 32865-A34001
Average Price: 66.67

Clutch Pedal Assembly
Part # : ? see clutch pedal below
Average Price:

Shifter Cables (courtesy parts)
Part # : 34413-A34001
Average Price: 126.77

Clutch Master Cylinder
Part # : 306108J100
Average Price: $ 100.43

Clutch Slave Cylinder
Part # 306207y000
Average Price: $ 54.73

Flywheel Bolts (Credit: jhbsolo)
Part # : 12315-8j100
Average Price: $4.00 (Each)

Flywheel
Part# 123108J100
Average Price: $513.11

6spd Starter
Part # : 233008j115r
Average Price:$ 246.57

Clutch Thowout Bearing
Part # : 3050241U20
Average Price: 34.15

Clutch Pedal (Credit: jhbsolo)
Part # : 46503-3z105
Average Price: $50.00

Brake Pedal (Credit: jhbsolo)
Part # : 46501-8j005
Average Price: $22.00

Clutch Disc/Cover Assy (courtesy parts)
Disc Part# 30100-A34001
Price: $ 83.87
Cover Part# 30210-A34001
Price: 131.94

Clutch assy bolts (to flywheel)
Part # 30223-A34002
price: $ 1.94 each

There are also numerous brackets and bolts that will be needed for this swap that are not mentioned here, like transmission breather hose & brakets. Transmission cable brackets to the body and bolts as well.

Recommended Upgrades (This is optional but if you have the funds, might as well)
Competition Clutch Stage 4 $354.43
Fidanza Aluminum Lightweight Flywheel $425.00
SS Clutch Line $40.00

Other Helpful Threads:
1-Piece Stainless Steel Clutch Lines (6spd's Only) 04-06: 1-Piece Stainless Steel Clutch Lines (6spd's Only) - my6thgen.org - Maxima Forum
Manual Transmission Clutch Upgrades (6spd's Only) 04-06: Manual Transmission Clutch Upgrades (6spd's Only) - my6thgen.org - Maxima Forum
Manual Flywheel Upgrades (6spd's Only) 04-06: Manual Flywheel Upgrades (6spd's Only) - my6thgen.org - Maxima Forum
04-06 NYC's First Official 6spd Swap 04-06: NYC's First Official 6spd Swap (100% Successful) - my6thgen.org - Maxima Forum


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Lol, different strokes... I'm sure if many knew that the 5speed was going to be troublesome they'd have settled for the 4speed.
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Lol, different strokes... I'm sure if many knew that the 5speed was going to be troublesome they'd have settled for the 4speed.
Sure would have, I will be in the 6mt swap boat soon .
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its a bit of work but in the end its well worth it if you really enjoy the a 6spd Sedan

I was the first to do the hybrid swap , still holding strong !
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Wow, with all that money you probably could of bought a 6spd. That's a lot of work man. Good luck with it
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Just sell the car and find a 6speed. You will spend more converting it than selling current car and buying one you want.
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@mrjasonlyrics @L36 his transmission went out, he won't get much for his max...transmission gone is the perfect time to take advantage and swap imo
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Come on guys I thought this was a car forum where we actually work on our cars lol. Props to the OP.
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Come on guys I thought this was a car forum where we actually work on our cars lol. Props to the OP.
It is but with the amount of work he'll have to do it's not even gonna be funny. I hope he gets a proper engine and tranny and do them timing chains while the engine is out. Either way the amount of money he's gonna invest he could of easily found a 6spd with tensioner problems for the money and just do the tensioners and timing chains. The tranny on these cars are the best so he wouldn't have to do any work there
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Come on guys I thought this was a car forum where we actually work on our cars lol. Props to the OP.
Car forum? Alright lets do this.
You will need to swap the shifter cables, which will require some body work in the front of the engine and wont be easy to do with the engine in the car but doable if the transmission is not in the car. Then you need to get the electronics going. Now, depending on what route you take, it will not matter in terms of difficulty because both ways are equally retarded on the labor front.

If you decide not to swap the engine harness and just splice the connections for the reverse signal, its not hard to do but will require some splicing. There is also the park switch you will have to do, I'm not sure what is involved to get that done so I'll shut up on that front.

If you go with the harness swap, they you're in a treat because removing the harness is not fun, been there; done it. Its a PITA.

ECU front, you can reuse your auto ECU, but if you utilize a manual engine harness with 4spd auto ECU, you might have unwanted codes and if you're in a state where emissions demand no CELs, you gonna have a problem if you want the car to be road legal.

Clutch hardware, not really saying much here, self explanatory.

Now if you go with 100% auto to manual swap with no shortcuts you will need:

M/T ECU
M/T engine harness and M/T interior harness (which hugely depends on what options you have and the donor M/T car has like navigation) that's behind the dash which is the hardest to swap.
M/T instrument cluster
Immobilizer will need to be reprogrammed for the new key if you get a M/T ECU

So, its your call. Id just sell the car and get a 6 speed because in the end in terms of money, you will come out on the top. Besides, if your current car does not have some options you want, this is the perfect time to upgrade to get some.

There is also bunch of things i did not mention, pretty sure there is a accurate list of things you need in this thread.

If you actually do this, you will have much fun.
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I mean if all that isn't a good enough reason to sell an auto and buy a manual I don't know what is
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What about when you have a 5AT and have a performance list like: headers, spacers, intake, y-pipe, exhaust, nitrous, etc. and just "buying" a 6spd will solve the trans issue but now having to start over? @L36
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What about when you have a 5AT and have a performance list like: headers, spacers, intake, y-pipe, exhaust, nitrous, etc. and just "buying" a 6spd will solve the trans issue but now having to start over? @L36
If i were in such situation and id still have all the stock parts that were replaced by aftermarket, id simply take the car back to stock, sell it and find a 6 speed to your liking. Reinstall all parts back and with the money saved maybe do cams for more lol.

If you don't have all the stock parts you replaced by your aftermarket ones, then you would equally spend the same amount by losing the money to sell the car with mods as is, buying 6speed and re-buying same mods again to install in new 6 speed vs buying parts to convert your current 5AT to 6 speed.

This hugely depends who will be doing the swap. Are you going to swap it or you going to pay someone to do it?

Whip out pen and paper and do some maths. Go on cracklist and look around for how much maximas go for by owner in your area both 6 speeds and 5AT with similar condition/mileage.

Reason why I'm so against conversions like this because they're too much hassle. Unless your car something like one of a kind color config with all options and stuff, maybe its worth is. If its a plain maxima with no options, its so not worth it. Furthermore, conversions aren't easy to do, after you do it, there is much troubleshooting because something always does not work as intended.

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^^^what he said. 6th gen conversions are a thing of the past IMO. You can pick up a 6MT for 3-5k these days. Not worth getting down and dirty. Back in the day when you couldnt find a 6MT for sale and when you did find one, it was really expensive yes, but now, no longer the case as they are available cheap.
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Yes that is my case. 04 max fully loaded minus navigation. Leather, Bose, etc. big thing is my max only has 47k on it so she is still a baby. I have invested a lot of time and money into my max and I dont want to part with it. I do not have the stock parts for everything i have upgraded. I also have someone who has pulled many transmissions and has boosted and swapped his own car and has done all work on my car thus far so labor cost is not an issue.

My issue is getting all parts needed and not running into any major issues (I know it's impossible) because the max is my daily and I have to get to and from work. Therefore I'm thinking my only option here is to swap and hope all goes well. I'm experiencing the early signs of the 3rd gear trans problems already and just would rather the 6spd either way.
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Old 03-25-2013, 04:54 PM   #19
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Yes that is my case. 04 max fully loaded minus navigation. Leather, Bose, etc. big thing is my max only has 47k on it so she is still a baby. I have invested a lot of time and money into my max and I don't want to part with it. I do not have the stock parts for everything i have upgraded. I also have someone who has pulled many transmissions and has boosted and swapped his own car and has done all work on my car thus far so labor cost is not an issue.

My issue is getting all parts needed and not running into any major issues (I know it's impossible) because the max is my daily and I have to get to and from work. Therefore I'm thinking my only option here is to swap and hope all goes well. I'm experiencing the early signs of the 3rd gear trans problems already and just would rather the 6spd either way.
There isn't much i can add. If you refuse going down the route of getting a 6 speed and parting with your current car, then go for it. Remember, it will depend on which route you will take to swap. Are you going to do full swap or only partial? Get the idea by looking at my first post in this thread.

If you go down the full swap path, it will depend on the options you have. If you have traction control, then you will have to get a special kind of M/T computer because there are 2 types of M/T ECU; one with and one without traction control support.

Second, interior harness. There are 2 types of interior harness when comes to M/T. One has plugs for navigation, one does not. The one that does not have plugs for navigation will have all plugs for all other options but navigation. I can hook you up with a guy that is selling all parts to swap navigation for cheap but the harness itself if you want to add navigation for the shits. I'm sure someone on car-part is selling M/T interior harness with navi plugs. You will also need a new M/T cluster and if you have traction control, a cluster with slip lights that is M/T is even harder to find.

Engine harness, not much to say, there is a M/T and auto 5AT and 4AT one. I'm not too sure if 4AT and 5AT are the same, don't quote me on that.

Although you can easily achieve the swap with reusing your current engine, interior harness 5AT ECU and cluster, but like i said; you have some interesting electronics work and troubleshooting waiting for you.

Last, the 3rd gear crunch can be easily avoided by just getting a 05+ maxima 6 speed or get altima coupe 6 speed as it will bolt right up. if you want to be really cool, get a HLSD FD from sentra SER and swap it into 05+ transmission. I heard somewhere 05+ maximas or altima coupes never came with HLSD so just sayan.

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How do you guys post pics of ur cars like some of u did?
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Some say buy a new one and others say do it. I wanna do it cuz like I said it was my first car, I bought from the dealer brand new when it only had 2 miles on it bak in late 03, I was one of the first people to have this model at the time. I love it, I been on top of it ever since. It's the SL wit everything (leather black seat, heated steering wheel/seats/mirrors, xenon headlights, Bose, basically everything jus no navi cuz I wasn't gonna spend an extra 1k+ when I'm good wit directions) I knw I won't find a manual maxima out there as nice n clean as mine. You don't used cars histories I can buy a manual n it won't have any of these options I have plus who knows what they did to the car over the years. I could be buying a car that will break down in the next day. I buying everything brand new so I'm playing it safe also I won't get much for my car that has F**ked up tranny, I doesn't go in R n when I'm in P it will move if I gas it. So it's GONE. Ima be a solider n going for it at least I will have a Lux-sports car after lol parts is about 4k-5k n labor is close to 3k n said it will take two weeks cuz the place is legit n professional and don't want to rush it. I will keep u guys posted when in goes in the shop hopefully next week, pray its a 100% successful!
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Some say buy a new one and others say do it. I wanna do it cuz like I said it was my first car, I bought from the dealer brand new when it only had 2 miles on it bak in late 03, I was one of the first people to have this model at the time. I love it, I been on top of it ever since. It's the SL wit everything (leather black seat, heated steering wheel/seats/mirrors, xenon headlights, Bose, basically everything jus no navi cuz I wasn't gonna spend an extra 1k+ when I'm good wit directions) I knw I won't find a manual maxima out there as nice n clean as mine. You don't used cars histories I can buy a manual n it won't have any of these options I have plus who knows what they did to the car over the years. I could be buying a car that will break down in the next day. I buying everything brand new so I'm playing it safe also I won't get much for my car that has F**ked up tranny, I doesn't go in R n when I'm in P it will move if I gas it. So it's GONE. Ima be a solider n going for it at least I will have a Lux-sports car after lol parts is about 4k-5k n labor is close to 3k n said it will take two weeks cuz the place is legit n professional and don't want to rush it. I will keep u guys posted when in goes in the shop hopefully next week, pray its a 100% successful!
Damn, thats a lot of cheese to spend on a conversion. Looking forward to updates.
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Some say buy a new one and others say do it. I wanna do it cuz like I said it was my first car, I bought from the dealer brand new when it only had 2 miles on it bak in late 03, I was one of the first people to have this model at the time. I love it, I been on top of it ever since. It's the SL wit everything (leather black seat, heated steering wheel/seats/mirrors, xenon headlights, Bose, basically everything jus no navi cuz I wasn't gonna spend an extra 1k+ when I'm good wit directions) I knw I won't find a manual maxima out there as nice n clean as mine. You don't used cars histories I can buy a manual n it won't have any of these options I have plus who knows what they did to the car over the years. I could be buying a car that will break down in the next day. I buying everything brand new so I'm playing it safe also I won't get much for my car that has F**ked up tranny, I doesn't go in R n when I'm in P it will move if I gas it. So it's GONE. Ima be a solider n going for it at least I will have a Lux-sports car after lol parts is about 4k-5k n labor is close to 3k n said it will take two weeks cuz the place is legit n professional and don't want to rush it. I will keep u guys posted when in goes in the shop hopefully next week, pray its a 100% successful!
You're overly attached to a pile of metal and plastic. With that extra cash you got to spend on the swap you could sell your current maxima and upgrade to something better. Then again, your money do what you want with it.
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I had the swap done. It didn't cost me as much as u guys r saying thast nuts! I payed 1800 for complete swap parts and 2000 for labor. Of corse I went and got the fidanza 13 pound flywheel and exeedy stage 2 racing clutch and the steal belted lines. The parts where used and but my whole project came out way better than I expected and is still going stronger than ever. The only thing is that I'm in NY and if ur in the 5 boroughs u can check out nycmaximas.org or maxima.org . My swap labor was done by Harjit at Alloutmotorworks and they did a excellent job!
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The only probably I'm having now is that I'm using my 5at harness bypassing the p/n switch and that's the only code left to my project. I have headers and no cats hooked up to a magnaflow cat-back system with the o2 and egr hook up done by Mikes auto repair in saint albans NY. I'm trying to get it to pass and it wont coz of the AT harness but I got the MT Ecu I bought 2 I wanna send one in to have it tweaked.
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