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Old 11-04-2010, 10:35 AM   Thread Starter #1
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Default The $2000 Oil Leak?

I have an oil leak and it appeared it was between the engine and transmission, but could not locate exactly where. It would settle at the bottom of the engine/transmission and drip a drop every couple days.
So took it to the Nissan dealership to see where exactly it was coming from.
The guy confirmed and said basically I need the following done..Taken from the quote
"Leak at Transmission and Engine - Found oil in tranny = replace main seal, 2 end seals and crank seal $1956 + Tax, May need more work"

He says the parts in question is about $100 but its 19 hours labor!

Does that sound right? What do you think i should do? Please advise :frown:

I replaced the tranny fluid few weeks back but havent noticed and discoloration, its still redish/pink.
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Default Re: The $2000 Oil Leak?

I have no idea about those prices.

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Default Re: The $2000 Oil leak?

Ususally the axle seal is the most common leak. As for the remain seal, u do have to remove the trans to get to it but 19 hrs is rediculous, more like 12 hours. Seals cost about $10 to $15 at most. Shop around my dude. Go to an independent shop. Whats ur location??
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Default Re: The $2000 Oil leak?

I live in Toronto, Canada.
Should I try a transmission place? I have a regular mechanic that i go to once and a while I'll check him out but I'm afraid this just might be too big of a job for him.
I would want this done correctly to avoid future costs.
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Default Re: The $2000 Oil leak?

Go to ur local guy n give him a try. If he's a mechanic then it shouldnt b too big for him. Did u c the leaks urself or jus goin by what the dealer told u?
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Default Re: The $2000 Oil leak?

OEM Rear Main Seal is about $40 bucks at my dealer..

as for Labor... ( evil laugh ) yeah its a PITA , you need to remove the subframe, axles , just to get to the tranny , then the tranny gotta come out and yeah Rear Main seal

btw ive done this already twice, and it does a part of a good day sometimes a day and half if your intrupted
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Default Re: The $2000 Oil Leak?

dammm bro!!! good luck with this and like dolla said "shop around"
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Default Re: The $2000 Oil Leak?

@MrDoLLa - No i did not see the leak myself. I could not determine where exactly the leak was originating from so i took it to Nissan. The Nissan tech said he had to remove a couple of things to actually see where it started. I'll check my guy to see what he says. I'll also check some other places as well. Thanks

@NiZMo1o1 - yeah i think the rear seal was about $65 plus the other end seals etc, came close to $100 in parts...I'm not worried about the parts, But the labor of 19 hours! Thats like half a work week in labor..wow...so basically you guys are saying on average this type of work should take 12-15 hours?

What worried me as well was that in their quote they said "may need more work"...so who knows what they "make up"...but the dude seemed sincere/ Although he and the service receptionist did have the Evil/laugh/smirk/ as I approached the counter so I played along and laughingly said "Should I finish downing my coffee"..They understood I want going to get it done right than and there, but he said to keep out on my oil level and such.

Thanks guys for the help I'll definetly shop around
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Default Re: The $2000 Oil Leak?

They always seem sincere when they're trying to take your money! Just get the job that the others recommended you get done. Then if you have anymore issues.....worry about it then cause at this point. The oil in the trans is what you should be worried about the most.
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They always seem sincere when they're trying to take your money! Just get the job that the others recommended you get done. Then if you have anymore issues.....worry about it then cause at this point. The oil in the trans is what you should be worried about the most.
If there was oil in the transmission, would I not notice the fluid be a different color when checking the ATF fluid? ATF looks good - reddish/pink. I changed it couple weeks back.

I'm wondering if the tech just made that part up.

But I'll definitely take it to a couple other places to have it looked at and see their rates. Nissan charges $96 per/hr labor...if its actual approximate labor time is 12-15 hrs and nissan says 19hrs, that's a difference of appx $400 - $700 in savings
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Ay man, you mentioned that before and that's why I brought it up.......
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Default Re: The $2000 Oil Leak?

This might be worth a drive to NY to have Raul help you out (MrDolla)! If he can do it for you for a decent price, even considering a cost of a hotel for the night, it would still be cheaper than 19 hours of labor. If this was a fox-bodied mustang, I could help you out, but I've never even attempted this on a Maxima.
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Ay man, you mentioned that before and that's why I brought it up.......
wasnt trying to be rude or anything, maybe the way i wrote it came out the wrong way..lol but yeah, the tech put on the quote "oil in tranny", but i have no evidence to support that, and when i check the ATF it looks good.
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This might be worth a drive to NY to have Raul help you out (MrDolla)! If he can do it for you for a decent price, even considering a cost of a hotel for the night, it would still be cheaper than 19 hours of labor. If this was a fox-bodied mustang, I could help you out, but I've never even attempted this on a Maxima.
I was in the Bronx last month, got family there, but never took my ride. Although I am planning to head down at the end of this month again. May have to hit up MrDoLLa If don't fix it by then.
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Default Re: The $2000 Oil Leak?

Well theres two place that would leak oil behind the motor,

the Rear Main Seal.

And above it theres a Freeze plug thats the oil passage.

Mines start leaking from there and thats NOT normal, When I did my first 5AT swap , I had tighten it, after the 6spd went in, it STILL LEAK.

now either way your going to have to pull down the subframe,axles, rack n pinion, tranny, there is ALOT involded.

Also the main concern is the pin that goes back into the rack n pinion , becareful NOT to loose that pin either.

since you have all that out , you also may want to consider putting the Sway Bar for the front since your in there, and check the bushings since your in there.

also best time to do headers as well , just a thought since your going thru all that.
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Originally Posted by NiZMo1o1 View Post
Well theres two place that would leak oil behind the motor,

the Rear Main Seal.

And above it theres a Freeze plug thats the oil passage.

Mines start leaking from there and thats NOT normal, When I did my first 5AT swap , I had tighten it, after the 6spd went in, it STILL LEAK.

now either way your going to have to pull down the subframe,axles, rack n pinion, tranny, there is ALOT involded.

Also the main concern is the pin that goes back into the rack n pinion , becareful NOT to loose that pin either.

since you have all that out , you also may want to consider putting the Sway Bar for the front since your in there, and check the bushings since your in there.

also best time to do headers as well , just a thought since your going thru all that
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Default Re: The $2000 Oil Leak?

I guess its safe to say that this type of problem is not normal for our cars?

The Nissan tech definitely said the rear main seal had to be replaced. Also is it even possible for oil to leak into the tranny?

I under stand its a big job I just don't to over pay to get it done. So I'll shop around, likely take this thread with me as there is excellent information in here. Thanks to all who have posted

How much do engines go for? Is that an option?
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Of course.......but an engine gonna cost you well over a grand. You might want to check some junk yards and see if you can get a deal on one. All in all, it's will cost you a LOT to buy and have it installed.
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Why would u consider changing the engine? Rear main seals r tuff jobs n like nizmo said it a lot of work. Ur not sure how bad the leak is so u dunno how long u can hold off on doin the job. U should get the car on a lift with someone u trustn check to see how severe it really is. The dealer may smile in ur face n sound sincere but make no mistake about it, its a business n their job is to get u for the most they can. The leak might not even b that serious, it might not even b the rear main seal. And again like Nizmo said, if ur gonna do it, try to install the most mods while ur there. GL n if u come to NY, u kno where to find me.
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Cool thanks guys, I'll take it to my guy and see what he says, or ill go shop around. Very much appreciate your support. I'll keep ya guys posted
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Here are some pics i took, the first ones from yesterday showing the oil all over the place. I cleaned up the area with brake cleaner, and took pics today. the area seem clear, but I found the area today which MIGHT be the source of the leak. I think its the axle but not sure. have a look guys. I'm going tomorrow to have it looked at by a local mechanic who has been recommended.

First three pics yesterday, showing oil pooled up at bottom of engine/tranny..
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The next day same area
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But as you can see here oil pooled up here on this sensor again even after cleaning yesterday.
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I didnt take pics of this area yesterday, but was able to take today..source of the leak ???
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Well if the axle is leaking , you should be leaking reddish color and not dark brown/black oil.

you can always replace the tranny seal there , but from the pictures esp where the CPS ( crank postion sensor ) its cover in oil like mines was.

remember even tho you've brake clean everything, you physically gotta let the car running and just lay on the floor and watch it leak, cleanning it , then driving around wont help simply because the oil is being splatter all over the place, the axles, the fans will blow the oil all over.

if you can clean every last oil and let the car idle, and basically watch where the oil is leaking,

its good to have a flashlight , a mirror as well and just be patient to see if its leaking under idle,

if not , try to get someone to bring the revs up to 1500rpm for a few seconds and just wait for it.

more than likely its the rear main seal leaking , dont forget behind the rear main seal is your torque convetor, so when that oil spills out its then caught up on a spining T/C and then the oil is just everywhere in the tranny case, and any leaks or openings , oil will find itself out from there.

Replacing an engine isnt ideal , its just one of those things that happen, its nothing major BUT yes the labor cost sucks, no matter how you cut it , more Shops or Dealer have to charge by the hourly rate.

I wish the job was something as easy as replacing axles but its just one of those things where your going have to suck it up and pay the labor to get it right.

will it damage your motor ? well if you keep topping oil then your good until you can save up the cash for the labor.

you can always try STOP LEAK but its only a bandaid to your issues.
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